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1982 P LMC Reminiscent Of 1909 LMC?

 
 
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 Posted 07/13/2019  1:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CouchDiver1978 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
When I first looked at it and saw the action on the "TY" of Liberty, I instantly thought this has to be MD, but after looking at it harder I grew a little less certain of that particularly after looking at some more pictures of the 1909 LMC DDO...

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 Posted 07/13/2019  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like Machine Doubling to me. The size of the devices have been reduced. It doesn't even match any Doubled Dies on doubleddie.com. http://doubleddie.com/828781.html
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 07/13/2019  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MD.
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It is Machine Doubling. The big difference? That the one you posted shows image reduction on the right sides of the devices. On the 1909 DDO, the devices are wider than normal:

Note the top image on LIBERTY. (FS-1101) The bottom example is for the FS-1102, that doesn't have the hub doubling on the 'RTY' area. (so these devices are normal sized) Now can you see how the devices are wider than normal on the upper image? On your coin the devices are reduced smaller than a normal cent.
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 Posted 07/13/2019  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree this is MD.
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 Posted 07/13/2019  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I instantly thought this has to be MD


And so it is, but I would argue that this is a particularly nice example, with a really clear step on the T and Y of LIBERTY.
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I appreciate the feedback guys. Thanks!
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