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Help With 2017 P LSC DD Or MD?

 
 
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 Posted 07/14/2019  11:38 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tiff2128 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This 2017 P LSC looks like there is some kind die issue, I am just not sure which one. Also, there seems to be some kind of color issue as well. I am not too sure what is exactly happening with this coin. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you








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 Posted 07/14/2019  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's both surprisingly. It's Machine Doubling and Die Deterioration Doubling on the obverse and reverse.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 07/15/2019  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, both MD and DDD.



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 Posted 07/15/2019  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinTech1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Perfect example of a Second die strike ( Machine Doubling) not a double die. It also has Die chips.
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Business strikes are only struck once. The Machine Doubling happens after the strike. Then the die movement kicks it in the shins because of looseness on the machine. Only struck once. (Proof coins are struck twice and sometimes more) But the MD can look like several strikes, because it will vary from strike to strike:

Note that the same markers are on these coins, but the MD is different on each one.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 07/15/2019  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tiff2128 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome thank you so much for the help and links. @Cointech1 where would the die chips be?
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