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 Posted 07/15/2019  5:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add IgnorantVirtuoso to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Has anyone heard of, or possibly ever seen, a 1943 steel cent that has a fairly distinct 3 over a 4? Was wondering if something like that, if it were to be certified as genuine, would be worth the fee of submitting.
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 Posted 07/15/2019  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NewbieCoiner808 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Post some pics
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 Posted 07/15/2019  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add metoo2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We'd love to see some close up pictures please
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 Posted 07/15/2019  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Evan7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it possible? Sure, anything is possible. Pics ple ASE
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 Posted 07/15/2019  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Definitely need images, but ......

Nope, Haven't heard or seen one. It would need to be attributed before it could be "slabbed".

Yes, it would be worth the fees but the probability is next to nil it is genuine since that is a very well studied and collected year.
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 Posted 07/16/2019  12:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How could it happen? The dies are all hubbed during that time. The design could not happen. Sure there can be a single year difference back in the day, but not 9 years off. Just couldn't happen.
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 Posted 07/16/2019  08:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What did I miss?
Didn't the OP ask about 1943/4, which is a one year difference.

(Both are highly unlikely but 3/4 seems even less likely than 4/3)

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 Posted 07/16/2019  08:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stoneman227 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Cliff , I think Coop meant that the last time a 4 was placed as a terminal digit on a working die to have been hubbed over by a 3 would hve been nine years previously
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If the coin is copper, I can see someone trying to make a fake copper 1943 coin, but if it's steel WHY/HOW ?
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 Posted 07/16/2019  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Several of them looked weird that year. Steel planchets and steel dies are not a good combination.




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 Posted 07/16/2019  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It would have to be a doubled die, design hub doubling with the die hubbed with a 1944 hub and then a 1943 or vice versa. Same way they created the 18/7 quarter, the 42/1 dimes, 1943/2 nickel etc.

But no such coin has ever been reported so good quality images are needed.
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 Posted 07/16/2019  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Stoneman and Coop for your comparison collages and knowledge.
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Same way they created the 18/7 quarter, the 42/1 dimes, 1943/2 nickel etc.


Yeah, but these are all LATER years over EARLIER years.
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