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1984 LMC, Need The Correct Name For What Is Happening At Rim And IGWT.

 
 
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 Posted 07/23/2019  11:06 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add GMS5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I would like to know the correct name or term for what is happening at the rim and In God of IGWT. Thanks very much.


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 Posted 07/23/2019  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is a worn die. Ridge ring maybe.
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 Posted 07/23/2019  11:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Die deterioration issue. The devices are flowing towards the rim. Ridge ring looks like it happened, but the die polishing removed more of the fields. This can be seen on either sides of the zincolns:



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 Posted 07/23/2019  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GMS5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Coop.
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 Posted 07/23/2019  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, common Die Deterioration. Pretty common on the LMC's from the 1980's.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 07/23/2019  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ppincher1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is there anyone else here besides myself, that thinks the 1980s were some of the worst craftsmanship for the pennies of all Lincoln cents made in the last 110 years?
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During that time there were a lot of new things changed that were not for the best ideas. Single squeeze dies were started to be used. (in later 80's) These had the lower profile. the crappy planchets (zinc with a thin layer of copper plating) started at that time. The issue with the plating over the zinc dust that caused them to look read bad.

At the end of the 1980's the RPMs ended. Supposed thinking then that doubled dies were being phased out. (but later we realized that wasn't happening) People saved less coinage during that time. The ridge ring issues with these cents. The multiple die clashes happened on the Zincoln's. Then the over polishing of the dies that removed a lot of the designs at that time. Kind of the "best" of the worst of times for coins then. Reminds me of the last years of the Wheat cents.

Just remembered the zinc rot issues and the split plating issues. It is amazing there are cents left till now from that time period. Thus we are still finding them. (and still complaining about them)
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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Ppincher1, yes I think so, in my opinion. Don't forget about the 1950's as well.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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