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Nicaragua
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 Posted 08/04/2019  1:14 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add heartgard to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello to all. Not a collector but I did acquire a coin that I sent in to a service for grading. Per the submission form, the turn around time for rarities was an estimated 2-5 days. After holding it in their vault for two weeks after USPS delivery, the grading service finally acknowledged my coin as 'Received' in their system and my membership fee was processed. The very next day an email came stating that the coin was mailed back to me. A check of my order online revealed the coin was determined to have been 'Cleaned' and therefore, not graded.
I suspect my submission came in on the heels of a coin show that may have taken many graders out of the office and possibly created a backlog of orders in house. That's just speculation on my part and I realize that 2-5 days is merely an estimate. However, I can't help but wonder if my coin got 'the bum's rush' if indeed there was a backlog.
I'm naturally disappointed in the outcome but I'm a novice and I don't want to bash the grading service. Should I be wary, or is this typical? Any opinions? Thanks for reading.
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 Posted 08/04/2019  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Smart People don't send their coins for grading.
I'm not that smart so I find your experience is quite typical.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 08/04/2019  1:29 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What did you send in?
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
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 Posted 08/04/2019  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And who did you send it to?
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Nicaragua
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 Posted 08/04/2019  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add heartgard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1850 double eagle
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 Posted 08/04/2019  3:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fioti to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would think, PCGS would give it at least a 'genuine'.

















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 Posted 08/04/2019  3:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could you show us pics of the coin?



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 Posted 08/04/2019  3:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add heartgard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, they gave it a genuine.
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 Posted 08/04/2019  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's only surprising when a Coin of that age HASN'T been cleaned.

Did they encapsulate with a improper cleaning? Or was the coin encapsulated as Genuine? Either way, that's still a great coin in anything like VF or better, cleaned or not.

Time at PCGS at the various stages can be nothing more than a wish rather than a count in days. There is NO chance that they treated your submission with anything less than respect.
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 Posted 08/04/2019  3:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add heartgard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Moxking- Encapsulated Genuine AU Details (92 Cleaned) I was under the impression that the Cleaned designation would lower the coin's desirability as a collectible.
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 Posted 08/04/2019  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As mentioned your coin definitely got looked at properly. PCGS is backed up right now with the intake part of it. There's been some shows and this part of the summer is when people use their vacation time. It's pretty typical for summer and early in the year to take a little longer than usual. The times mentioned are estimates that start once the submission is entered into the system.


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Moxking- Encapsulated Genuine AU Details (92 Cleaned) I was under the impression that the Cleaned designation would lower the coin's desirability as a collectible.


It does compared to a non-details version with some styles of cleaning hurting it more than others.
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 Posted 08/04/2019  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add heartgard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does compared to a non-details version with some styles of cleaning hurting it more than others.



basebal21- Thank you for all your feedback. The guy I bought this from told me it came up in a shovelful of dirt down here in Nicaragua. He said he dunked it in a bucket of water to rub off the encrusted dirt. Probably dried it on his shirt. Knowing the seller as I do, I have no reason to believe otherwise. I guess cleaning as subtle as this can be detected by experts...
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 Posted 08/04/2019  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd still say it has very nice eye appeal for a cleaned coin. While it will effect the price a bit, because it isn't too obvious it won't make a huge impact.
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
ANA id: 3194067
My Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq...ukyxurAHKuRg
If you want to buy something or sell something or just talk, shoot me a PM!
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 Posted 08/14/2019  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hullamania to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Beautiful coin. On something that dated and desirable, the details designation won't drive off many buyers.
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