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Found A 1984 D LMC That Looks Like A D Over D New To This Need Help

 
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 Posted 09/06/2019  08:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If the MM shows Machine Doubling would or would not the date show it also?

No. MD can show only in one area.


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I've looked all over including NGC and I cant find an error for this year.

There might be a good reason for that.
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 Posted 09/06/2019  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim0815 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears to be MD unfortunately.
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 Posted 09/06/2019  09:11 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dugupdandys, can't expect me to get everything right. I am right most of the time, but mistakes are occasionally made still. I still a very knowledgeable member. Been doing this for almost 3 years straight. Also, the mintmark doesn't show a Doubled Die at all, sorry, just Machine Doubling.

And here's what the mintmark looks like on the 1995 D Doubled Die Obverse. A genuine Doubled Die enlarges the size of the mintmark, while Machine Doubling reduces it. http://doubleddie.com/506234.html
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 09/06/2019  09:38 am  Show Profile   Check tropicalbats's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add tropicalbats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting coin.

While I can't tell from the photos which what it is, I wouldn't rule out a D/D west. It would, of course, be a very rare thing since there is a strong DDO on the date for this year and so that area gets checked pretty much by everyone that looks for varieties and one hasn't been found some 35 years after the coins were minted. Not impossible, but would be a remarkable find.

Anyway, a true west D/D can be tough to determine. There is still some debate about whether the 1927-D DDO-003 has an RPM or just something that looks like one. People disagree and Wexler lists it as WRPM-005 while CONECA does not list it at all.

For comparison, the most similar actual RPM I know of is the 1953-D/D RPM-001. So here is an image of it just for something to maybe compare to.

Good luck and hoping for the best with your find.


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 Posted 09/06/2019  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


It could very well be a D/D West, but it's tough to tell. Any way we could get some better pictures of the Mint Mark? It looks like Machine Doubling, but better pics could help. Best of luck!

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 Posted 09/06/2019  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jenchris76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll get some more pics from every angle this evening. Using a coin magnifier app at the moment but I ordered a lcd microscope that should be in the mail soon too.
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 Posted 09/06/2019  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sarge50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dugupdandys.....I agree with you! This looks like an obvious DD! I'm no expert by far but wow, those last pictures show it really doubled especially in the middle of the D you can see the body of the first D? I hope you got something NEW buddy, that would mean I'll have to go back through all my big pile to look for this error! I say congrats and good eye! Sarge
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 Posted 09/07/2019  02:25 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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it would be better if you knew what the heck you were talking about. That answer makes me question what you said about mine. I got my glasses on.. obvious Doubble Die mint mark in first picture..


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How would a doubled die affect a mintmark?
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 Posted 09/07/2019  04:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a reminder: mint marks were applied by hand to each working die prior to 1990.The 1995-D DDO,the mint mark "and" date as well as the lettering is doubled.This all factors in on the 1984-D as to weather it is or isn't a doubled die obverse. Maybe we need Mike on this?
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