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2005 Jefferson And 19xx D Roosevelt Dime Attribution Help Appreciated.

 
 
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 Posted 09/05/2019  05:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SomeGreatLuster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello Community,

I recently found these 2 coins and do not know what to make of them. I would like to know if they are mint errors or post mint damage.Someone told me that they are just really postmint damaged coins. I just wanted to get another opinion from this forum.

The first coin is a Jefferon Nickel but a lot of the image is missing on the front and basically all of the back. Besides a little window of the trees. I was just thinking that if someone did grind it down then they did a super good job and took their time on it with some tools at least I don't have.

And then the second is a Roosevelt dime that just looks mangled and the closest thing that I can find if it was not done post mint is feeder finger damage. Coins that were completely mangles and had some of the folded edges that this dime resembled.

Any thoughts from you guys would be greatly appreciated



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 Posted 09/05/2019  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. None are errors. Post Mint Damage.
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 Posted 09/05/2019  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Big-Kingdom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes both are damaged post mint.
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 Posted 09/05/2019  10:12 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To CCF! Both coins have been seriously damaged. It's Post Strike Damage ( PSD). Both are only worth face value. No errors here.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 09/05/2019  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Evan7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome to CCF! EXCELLENT pictures. Unfortunately, those are damaged coins as others have pointed out.

Cheers
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 Posted 09/12/2019  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SomeGreatLuster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you guys so much for the replies and warm welcomes! Can not believe it has already been a week, but want to make it a point to check in more often.

So its unanimously understood by everyone (...besides me ) that these 2 coins were victims of post mint damage. I am obviously new to errors and varieties and doing as much reading as I can, but on top of this I think these forums are invaluable educational resources and was just wondering if anyone can give me some insight into how one may come to this conclusion?

It seems to come so easy and seem so obvious to everyone but me? Is it by having such a full and in depth understanding of the steps within the minting process that one would know for certain that it would be impossible for coins to come out like this? And so I should start there? Or is it just through experience and having a fundamental understanding of all of the possible errors which would not include coins that look like these?

Sorry if I am making no sense or over thinking it. I have been educating myself all week and just have kind of been stuck on this concept and what direction to head in. Any advice or any resources that helped you guys move along in the beginning? I am continually coming across many coins which resemble known errors but not quite the same... Thanks again everyone
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 Posted 09/12/2019  11:30 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SomeGreatLuster, if you want to better understand the minting process,I would check out these two websites.

www.error-ref.com
www.doubleddie.com
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
1973 D Lincoln Memorial cent With Recurring Die Subsidence Error Information. http://goccf.com/t/304624
Machine Doubling tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
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 Posted 09/13/2019  09:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SomeGreatLuster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome thank you so much! The error-ref site at a quick glance seems really quiet good and detailed exactly like something I was looking for so thanks again. Doubleddie.com! Duh I should have known (: I have actually come across many Doubled Dies and would like to grade them/ have them attributed, but dont want to waste money if they actually are not the real thing so this should help and I hope you guys wont mind all my post for a second opinion...
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