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1997 D Penny Doubled Die On Date Or Double Strike

 
 
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 Posted 10/13/2019  7:02 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add humble1313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hey Guys

So this lesson 3 for me. I have a 1997 D penny which in my humble opinion seems like a doubled die however I have looked on Wexlers website and found nothing similar to this.

Can any of the professionals of the community give me an opinion please?


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 Posted 10/13/2019  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On a doubled die the devices are enlarged, not reduced. On Machine Doubling the devices are reduced. So you have Machine Doubling. Machine Doubling happens after the strike. A slight bounce/swing that is like a kick in the shins. Note on your coin: See on the affected area:
1. The area is flat, shelf like.
2. The contour of the coin is removed on that side of the devices.
3. The overall size of the devices are reduced in size.
On a doubled die, the doubling is on the die and hubbed on to the die, thus the term doubled die. Here is an example:

Note on this doubled die, not just the date is affected:

Even the mintmark is affected:

This is a Doubled die even on the mintmark since 1990, there are no more RPMs, but affect mintmarks are then called doubled dies in 1990 forward coins.

Machine Doubling is very common. Even a doubled die can be affected with Machine Doubling. But your coin is normal, with Machine Doubling that happened after the strike. Just a common coin.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 10/13/2019  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add humble1313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is the best explanation on how to differentiate between the two types of errors I have ever read. Thank you sir
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 Posted 10/13/2019  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Rather than give a yes or no answer, (which I was not trained with) I give a detailed explanation what I see. That way other can also see what I see, then know when they see it again, what it is. Yes are no answer do one thing. Give the answer. But a teacher will help explain what they are looking at to that when they see it again. Boom, they know what it is. Yes or no answer don't teach. Just my way of paying it forward.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 10/13/2019  7:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coop, great explanation! This is what makes CCF so great!
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 Posted 10/13/2019  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well all here play on the same team and help out. So it really is, a coin community that really are family.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 10/13/2019  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes strong work and a super attitude as always @coop.
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