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1983 D Penny With Open Top.

 
 
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 Posted 10/19/2019  9:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What causes the the letters on this 1983 D penny at the top to be falling off and a space above ?


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 Posted 10/19/2019  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Die deterioration. Can I see a sharp closeup of the ear of Lincoln?

-CH27
"Time is the coin of life. Only you can determine how it will be spent" -Carl Sandburg

Some of my best finds:
1942 LWC DDO FS-104 http://goccf.com/t/344022 1963 25 Type B reverse http://goccf.com/t/352858
1964 LMC Tapered Planchet http://goccf.com/t/344895 1867 Indian cent RPD Snow-1: http://goccf.com/t/357323
1964-D 25C DDO FS-101: http://goccf.com/t/354851 1859 IHC RPD FS-303 S-3: http://goccf.com/t/359464#3089369




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 Posted 10/19/2019  9:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the best I can get at present. Close up of the ear as requested.




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 Posted 10/19/2019  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the extra pics. I don't see anything about this coin that saves it from spending. Keep hunting!

-CH27
"Time is the coin of life. Only you can determine how it will be spent" -Carl Sandburg

Some of my best finds:
1942 LWC DDO FS-104 http://goccf.com/t/344022 1963 25 Type B reverse http://goccf.com/t/352858
1964 LMC Tapered Planchet http://goccf.com/t/344895 1867 Indian cent RPD Snow-1: http://goccf.com/t/357323
1964-D 25C DDO FS-101: http://goccf.com/t/354851 1859 IHC RPD FS-303 S-3: http://goccf.com/t/359464#3089369




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 Posted 10/19/2019  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks.
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 Posted 10/19/2019  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very Late Die State coin with heavy Die Deterioration and thin devices from repeated die polishings.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
2000 P LMC With Retained Struck Through error. http://goccf.com/t/357080
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 Posted 10/20/2019  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ikuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 10/20/2019  1:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The edge of the die near the rim of the die has been tapered from die polishing. This leaves a raised ring on the outside of the die/internal edge of the rim. The gutter on the outside of the die creates the rim:

Note lower right image. So inside that edge that forms the rim, is where the die was reduced. (a reduction on the die, will leave a raised edge on the coins struck with that die) The the crisp line has been altered in that affected area.

When the die was hubbed, the die needs to be set for the correct size. So note the die on the right that has not been tapered. On the right you can see the die set to required specs. You can barely see the area that forms the rim. This is also added to the die after the tapering. It is necessary of the the rim creation.
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10/20/2019 1:16 pm
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