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Malaysia Flower Pimples On Surfaces? Fake Coin? Check It Out

 
 
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 Posted 11/06/2019  05:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Thecollectible to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Please refer to the scans below and let me knows of what you think later there




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 Posted 11/06/2019  05:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@TC, can you please post the weight? Thx.
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 Posted 11/06/2019  05:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numister to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why in the world would anyone want to fake that ?
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 Posted 11/06/2019  07:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

The coin is only worth AUD $0.18 or USD$0.12,
it would not be worth faking it.

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 Posted 11/06/2019  08:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moxking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could be a prize if its fake. There are plenty of collectors with black book collections.

Having the most worthless fake known would be a real find. Worth a couple bucks as such.
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 Posted 11/06/2019  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scopru to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Having the most worthless fake known would be a real find.




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 Posted 11/06/2019  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In reality, 50 sen coins have been counterfeited together with 1 ringgit. 1 ringgit coin was actually demonetized and strangely enough was replaced by paper note. There was a big move to replace them with the newer high security coins.
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 Posted 11/06/2019  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Having the most worthless fake known would be a real find.


Not to hijack this thread to far, but I have multiple US and foreign coins that have face value of one cent (or less) but are fake. I think that the bar is pretty low.
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 Posted 11/08/2019  05:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thecollectible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These circulation coin looks exactly fake to be honest with you
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 Posted 11/08/2019  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tdziemia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree. Fake.

The lettering on the denomination side is very poorly executed. The R and M have "tails" the S is not curved as it should be.

Take a look at the real coin, and it is quite clear-cut.
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It always makes me chuckle when someone says a coin would not be worth forging.

My uncle was a counterfeiter from roughly 1930 to 1965. He made coins for circulation. He operated in southeast Massachusetts and Rhode Island. One thing I learned from him is that there is no margin too small for a successful counterfeiter.

He made mostly silver coins and always used the correct amount of silver (or very close to it), because as tokens US silver coins contained less silver than their face value. He told me that he did not defraud anyone because he made coins from the same amount of metal as the government.

The logic may be flawed but he was a very successful counterfeiter. Never once arrested and no one knew what he was doing during his lifetime outside of a few family members like myself.

Making a coin worth 12 cents can be profitable as long as you spend less than 12 cents to make it and you do not get caught. A coin like the one in question contains only a couple cents worth of metal.

In places where labor costs are low it does not take a lot of incentive to turn to forgery if there are no alternatives.
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I really like swamperbob's comments.

They tie in really well with a book by Charles M. Larson -
'Numismatic Forgery', which clearly details how to make very deceiving forgeries.
This book is endorsed by none other than Ken Bressett, a past president of the A.N.A.
Such a book strongly helps a suspicious collector to to expose fake coins, by their method of manufacture.
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