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 Posted 12/02/2019  08:58 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Farm1942 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
new to this. would appreciate what other do when using 2 x 2 coin flips. do you staple, or tape, or use self adhesive flips? which is best in your opinions? Staples would protrude thru, but OK? thanks for the help.
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 Posted 12/02/2019  09:11 am  Show Profile   Check Yokozuna's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I'm in the NEVER use staples camp. Anything that can damage your coins should be avoided. I like to use Scotch Tape over the edge of the 2x2 or double sided Scotch Tape if I'm working with a tiny coin. The Silver 3 likes to move around even in the smallest 2x2 so I tape it on the inside and as close to the window as possible without showing.

Using the double-sided Scotch Tape is like making your own self sealing flip.
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 Posted 12/02/2019  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can get a flat stack stapler that flattens the staples. Canadian about $13
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 Posted 12/02/2019  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I use staples to seal two sides of a flip. No need on the side that doesn't open. I keep a pliers handy to flatten the staples. Easy and no need to buy separate stuff.
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They make staplers that flatten the staple ends automatically. They're called "flat clinch" staplers and I recommend them highly as they prevent one stapled flip from scratching another the coin in another.

Cost is $10 - $15 and you can get them anywhere but Amazon appears to be the least expensive retailer.
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I like using staples. I use a quality bullnose plier. Flattening the staples does at least five functions.


1. It makes 2x2's easier to insert, into and remove from non PVC pages and does not leave ugly raised evidence in the pages of staple bumps.

2. In storage boxes, I can fit more coins inside since they are flatter.

3. Stapling and flattening the staples probably reduces the amount of external air that could reach the coin inside and help prevent environmental issues.

4. Of course, the staples being flush with the 2x2 will not disturb or damage a neighboring coin if they come in contact through the windows in the 2x2.

5. I believe when I squeeze down the staples, in most cases, it spreads the window over the rim enough to almost always raise and stretch the window off the surface of the coin.

These have been my tools for many thousand staplings. You get good at it. Be careful that you buy a quality stapler that won't overhang and damage the coin.
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Practice with your stapler on a folded cereal box cardboard first before damaging your coins. Learn where the nose of your stapler closes and how close to the cardboard it stops in relation to the windows.

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 Posted 12/02/2019  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with just carl. If you are using two sided tape,make sure the adhesive is coin friendly.
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 Posted 12/02/2019  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Farm1942 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
so no one uses coin flips that are self adhesive? Is that because of cost or some other reason - like can't get them open in the future? Or are the self adhesive flips just not quality enough? I really appreciate the feed back. It seems stapling is the majority approach............Farm1942...........thanks.
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I use a flat clinch stapler. But then I touch the staples to make sure there is no raised metal as commercial-grade staplers are not always perfect. If so I do use a plier to flatten.

One caution. Make sure you use quality steel staples. I've seen enough older 2x2s that had rust marks around the staples. That cannot be good for the coin.
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 Posted 12/02/2019  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HGK3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many people use the self adhesive flips, but I've encountered two problems with them.

First, at least in some instances (probably in the less expensive ones), the adhesives weaken over time, causing air exposure and possible coin loss.

Second, they seem to be very problematic on larger coins because of the smaller adhesive area and the increased weight of the coin. The failure rate on these flips for half and dollar coins seems very high.
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I use the flat cinch stapler myself on the 2x2 cardboard and mylar holders. It's what 90% of my 2 cent collection is in. For 2x2 flips I don't use anything at all, I just fold them, unless they are proof coins then I'll put the coins in a poly baggie and insert it into the 2x2 flip.

Always check the staples as previously stated and carefully use some pliers if needed to make sure the ends are down smooth. When I need to remove the coins, I don't pull them apart, I use a razor blade or x-acto type knife to carefully cut around the mylar and then push the coin out onto a soft padded jewelry tray, or towel.
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so no one uses coin flips that are self adhesive? Is that because of cost or some other reason - like can't get them open in the future? Or are the self adhesive flips just not quality enough?

I use the self-adhesive type, if available. There are three downsides to self-adhesive 2x2s:
- Single use only;
- More expensive than regular 2x2s;
- For some brands of self-adhesive 2x2, the sticky stuff goes off over time, making it less sticky - so you end up having to use staples anyway.

Dealers often like using self-adhesive 2x2s because they look cleaner, and dealers don;t have to worry about constantly taking the coins out to have a look at them more closely.

I personally wouldn't trust sticky-tape anywhere near a coin. The adhesives in self-adhesive 2x2s have (presumably!) been tested with coins. Stickytape hasn't; who knows what chemical vapours are being emitted as the stickytape degrades. Stickytape always "goes off" within a decade, looking unsightly.
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I don't pull them apart, I use a razor blade or x-acto type knife

I use a pocket knife or flat blade screwdriver and bend the ends of the staples straight and then pry the staple out from the otherside.I would not feel comfortable putting a sharp blade near the coin to cut it out of the Mylar.
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 Posted 12/03/2019  09:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try using a pair of tweezers to bend the staple and then pull it out.
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