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1993 LMC With Reverse Planchet Crack And Uneven Planchet?

 
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 Posted 12/10/2019  10:05 pm Show Profile   Check JohnWayne007's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Was just wondering if this is a planchet crack? Sorry about the angle it was the only way I could get a close up with the whole thing in the picture.

Also to note one side of this coin is really thin, and the other side is really thick, so when you put it on a flat surface its not actually flat one side is as thick as a dime, other side is as thick as a nickel, is it normal to see this?









They say coin roll hunting is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get.... I think it went something like that, I was too busy looking at coins.

This is my very first error coin I found that got me hooked.
- 1989 Belize 25 Cent's with a Doubled Die Reverse http://goccf.com/t/362747
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 Posted 12/10/2019  10:41 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
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Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
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 Posted 12/11/2019  12:09 am  Show Profile   Check JohnWayne007's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Errers and Varietys, I always thought that die cracks only make the coin raised, not incused into the coin? I only ask because this crack goes into the coin and in some spots looks filled.
They say coin roll hunting is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get.... I think it went something like that, I was too busy looking at coins.

This is my very first error coin I found that got me hooked.
- 1989 Belize 25 Cent's with a Doubled Die Reverse http://goccf.com/t/362747
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 Posted 12/11/2019  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Greasy Fingers to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Might just be a scratch
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 Posted 12/11/2019  12:55 am  Show Profile   Check JohnWayne007's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im not quite sure it would be a scratch, this is pretty deep into the coin but not like it was cut but more like its just missing..

Here are some more close up photos.




They say coin roll hunting is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get.... I think it went something like that, I was too busy looking at coins.

This is my very first error coin I found that got me hooked.
- 1989 Belize 25 Cent's with a Doubled Die Reverse http://goccf.com/t/362747
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 Posted 12/11/2019  02:58 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's incuse on the coin, it may be struck-through. That may explain the sharp turn to the north. It's tough sometimes to tell whether things are raised or incuse in pics like this. As to the thickness, it may have been what E&V said. The obverse strike lends itself to that explanation.
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 Posted 12/11/2019  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a die crack to me.
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 Posted 12/11/2019  12:08 pm  Show Profile   Check JohnWayne007's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After a few hours this morning I figured out it is a die crack, from the top view looking right at the coin it looks like from the Rim to the C is incuse, than from the C to the memorial steps its raised but from a side view it is all raised even the part that looks incuse so I'm just going to go with the die crack suggestions. it's odd how certain angles and light can make things look incuse on a coin, than from a different angle look raised.

Thank you guys for helping me out with this one!
They say coin roll hunting is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get.... I think it went something like that, I was too busy looking at coins.

This is my very first error coin I found that got me hooked.
- 1989 Belize 25 Cent's with a Doubled Die Reverse http://goccf.com/t/362747
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 Posted 12/11/2019  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it is a crack, sometimes with enough circulation it can wear the plating off the top of the crack and show gray. But this does look irregular making me think it is a die crack instead of damage. (Usually a coin scratch will retain the width of what ever cut into the coin. But I'm not seeing this on the coin. Seeing what he mentioned as deep into the coin, that makes me think it is damage? But where it goes over the rim, does look like damage. So The jury for me is still out on this coin either way.
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 Posted 12/11/2019  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Check JohnWayne007's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the Rim to the Steps is all raised, I just thought it was deeply incuse into the surface but I was mistaken, it was just due to the angle and lighting from my microscope made a crack look inverted, I will try and take photos of side views and post them to show.
They say coin roll hunting is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get.... I think it went something like that, I was too busy looking at coins.

This is my very first error coin I found that got me hooked.
- 1989 Belize 25 Cent's with a Doubled Die Reverse http://goccf.com/t/362747
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 Posted 12/11/2019  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 12/11/2019  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Check JohnWayne007's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for the wait guys, here is a clear photo with the coin on an angle so you can see the entire crack is raised off of the coin and not incuse.


They say coin roll hunting is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get.... I think it went something like that, I was too busy looking at coins.

This is my very first error coin I found that got me hooked.
- 1989 Belize 25 Cent's with a Doubled Die Reverse http://goccf.com/t/362747
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 Posted 12/12/2019  02:42 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a really good pic!
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 Posted 12/12/2019  11:41 am  Show Profile   Check JohnWayne007's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add JohnWayne007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you spruett001, hopefully it is clear enough for coops liking as well lol, this is the 3rd time my eyes have been fooled by my microscope regarding incuse and raised. Sometimes its just hard to tell until you get good side shots to see the height of the area in question. Sorry for the confusion everyone!
They say coin roll hunting is like a box of chocolates, you never know what your gonna get.... I think it went something like that, I was too busy looking at coins.

This is my very first error coin I found that got me hooked.
- 1989 Belize 25 Cent's with a Doubled Die Reverse http://goccf.com/t/362747
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 Posted 12/12/2019  12:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shows what I needed to see. Thanks. Die crack that circulation wore the plating off the higher point of the crack.
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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