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Series 2017 A - Anyone Have Any Info?

 
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 Posted 12/28/2019  11:37 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I read tonight that the BEP announced series 2017A notes (some time ago, actually) and that 2017A is meant to signify a minor change in the production process.

Anyone know what that minor change is?
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 Posted 12/29/2019  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Until a 2017-A $20 shows up in circulation we will probably never know what the minor change happens to be.
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 Posted 12/29/2019  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While the $20 notes are the first of the 2017A printed (April '19), according to uspapermoney.info, there are $1, $2, $5, $10, $20 & $100 notes in the 2017A series so far. It may be a while before we see the $1 notes as they were only printed last month (Nov '19).
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 Posted 12/29/2019  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've got some 2017A $2 notes and I've compared them to some 2013 $2 notes...and they feel, look and smell identical. These were printed in August.

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 Posted 12/29/2019  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
^^ Just ordered a couple of those myself tonight.
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 Posted 12/30/2019  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VictoryHighway to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At least for the $5 notes, the Series 2017-A is the first printing in the 50-subject sheet format.
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 Posted 01/07/2020  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CelticKnot to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just received G03369197A and 198A in the mail. Guessing we used the same source, Steve.
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 Posted 02/24/2020  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PacoMartin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Normal reason for the A,B,C series is the Secretary of the Treasury stays the same, but the Treasurer changes.

However, signatures of the 2017A series are Carranza-Mnuchin same as series 2017.

It is not currently clear why this series exists or how it is different from Series 2017. We may hope the BEP will provide an explanation eventually.-webmaster@uspapermoney.info

Jovita Carranza (born June 29, 1949) was the 44th Treasurer of the United States in office from June 19, 2017 - January 15, 2020. Her successor has not been determined.

However, production of the $20 2017A series began in April-May 2019.
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 Posted 02/25/2020  11:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadDog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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We may hope the BEP will provide an explanation eventually

Well, I asked the BEP's Historical Resource Center about the change from series 2017 to 2017A. So, far I've only received the following non-committal response
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Series changes entail more than just signature or design changes. When possible and practical, the BEP makes other needed modifications to banknotes, which may include changes to materials or processes (e.g. change of a supplier or subject format). Availability of new materials, the manufacturing of plates with new signatures, production and delivery schedules, and management of inventory to minimize waste of any materials being replaced can also effect signature change timing.

We'll see if I get anything else in response to my follow-up inquiry.

And here's the response to my follow-up inquiry

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The information you have requested is proprietary information and, consequently, cannot be disclosed.


Guess I'll have to try the FOIA route.
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 Posted 02/25/2020  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveInTampa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks @BadDog...looks like they lawyered-up.
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...looks like they lawyered-up.

Maybe, or could just be that the historians didn't feel comfortable giving out info on the current series. We'll see if I get anything different from the FOIA request
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 Posted 02/25/2020  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lettow to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On another forum it was suggested that the change is in the composition of the paper.
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