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1966 Roosevelt Dime With "5" On His Cheek?

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 Posted 03/23/2020  2:30 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Sublime to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
So I came across this. Let me know what you guys think





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 Posted 03/23/2020  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@sublime, under that level of magnification, you can see almost anything in those circulation marks. Sorry but I don't think that you have anything there.
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 Posted 03/23/2020  2:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keith12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see nothing in those photos
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 Posted 03/23/2020  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sublime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 03/23/2020  4:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes @sublime I agree that it does kinda look like a number 5. However, I think that it is actually just circulation wear and Pareidolia, much like I see an Xbox logo a little further up on Roosevelt's temple:


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 Posted 03/23/2020  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rockdude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's kind of like looking at clouds for things.
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 Posted 03/23/2020  5:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sublime to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ha. Thx. Maybe my head is in the clouds with this whole pandemic And having Illinois shut down right now! Thx for the input.
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. much like I see an Xbox logo a little further up on Roosevelt's temple:


My oh my does that old original Xbox logo take me back.
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 Posted 03/23/2020  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes no prob @sublime. I wasn't trying to be smarmy, but rather just show how if we look for patterns in randomness, we can find all sorts of things. That just doesn't make them real.
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 Posted 03/23/2020  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When you look too close, everything looks like something. Your brain always spots stuff like this. Just like when you dream, it all makes sense. But when you wake up and you think about it, it made no sense at all. Your brain works that way, to make sense of nothing at all. That is what your seeing even when your awake.
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 Posted 03/23/2020  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, just like seeing animal shapes in the clouds.



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 Posted 07/05/2020  01:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RiversXSM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi!

Sorry, this is my first post and a bit late.

Sublime -

Your coin belongs to what we've labeled die pair B-b. It's a false 5.

Your location is still a little off. The metal grain that appears to trick a little people is on the north part of the cheek, almost at the cheekbone. This is a really rough sketch over your photo, but this is approximately what people think they see. As everyone has mentioned, this is numismatic Pareidolia.



The actual location would be somewhere between the two. Here is the rough area of where it will be.



Hopefully this helps out with your search. I'm not sure what die indicators/markers will be in the CherryPickers Guide, but I can tell you with certainty that this coin is 100% not the variety. Even with the photos, we can guarantee you based off markers for the obverse B.

We haven't seen the "5" variety on a circulated dime yet, but of course that doesn't mean they aren't out there. In terms of getting attributed, the TPG would have to see it with a 5X loupe also.

Because we haven't seen the markers to be included in the CPG, we don't know if they would be able to tell by the die markers we've seen listed. Most would have worn away; you would need an XF or higher with a strong strike.

Sorry for the long and late reply.

If you come across one you want us to look at, just let us know. Good luck! Have a happy 4th!
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 Posted 07/06/2020  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Incuse marks on a coin is damage 99% of the time. If a '5' was there, where is the rest of the design. On device can't be struck on a coin with out the rest of the design. The dies are no longer made piece meal any longer. The design is passed on down the chain:


Working hub:


How is a hub and die different?

Can you see the difference? Clue: Lugs.

Incuse lugs are hubs. Raised lugs are dies that have not been finished yet.


Tapered die:

Tapered to correct size.




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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
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Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 07/07/2020  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting how much they have lengthened the necks on the hammer dies, they used to be much shorter than that. I wonder if that is a change that was made when they went to the horizontal striking presses?
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 Posted 07/07/2020  12:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well the images are probably 10 years old by now. Things do change at the mint. Where are the laser dies? That should put an end to doubled dies. LOL (Just be something new to figure out)
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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