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1985 100 Mexican Pesos Major DDR

 
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 Posted 03/31/2020  6:09 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've never error hunted foreign coins before, but I'm just about out of things to hunt through while social distancing in my house, so I spilled out my foreign coin jar and started working my way through it. I was pretty much floored when I discovered this major DDR on a 100 Mexican Pesos coin - especially since I've had he coin since I was a child and have played around with it plenty since it was such a fun, heavy coin to hold in your hand.

Are errors like this as rare on world currency as they are on US coins? It seems crazy to me that I would find something like this considering I've looked at *way* more US coins for errors/varieties, and have never found anything even on this order of magnitude. Maybe not even 10 orders of magnitude lower... I'm usually over the moon if I can see split serifs under a mintmark at 100x magnification.








Edit: just to give a sense of how crazy this is to me, I had only looked through the coins in the jar below before finding this.

Edited by SamCoin
03/31/2020 6:16 pm
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 Posted 03/31/2020  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a good looking doubled die! Unfortunately, the foreign doubled dies don't seem to be as popular as US. Therefore, there isn't really any major documentation of rarity for coins like this, although it is possible to find a listing online somewhere. Still, a cool find!

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1857 FEC DDO S-4 FS-101:
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1888-O $1 Hot Lips VAM-4:
http://goccf.com/t/363580
1970-S 1C DDO FS-103
http://goccf.com/t/372456




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 Posted 03/31/2020  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, CoinHunter - in your own experience, would you say they're much more common than on US coins, or is something like this still relatively rare? Is it worth putting in a flip?
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 Posted 03/31/2020  8:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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. Thanks, CoinHunter - in your own experience, would you say they're much more common than on US coins, or is something like this still relatively rare? Is it worth putting in a flip?


I know I'm not CoinHunter but from my experience I would say that it's likely that double dies are just as prevelent on world coins as they are on USA coins, but the thing is that USA coins are so widely collected that almost any little, teeny tiny, nearly invisible double die is catalogued, whereas in countries with coins that aren't as widely collected those kind of double dies might not even be noticed, and only the extremely major ones, not unlike your amazing specimen here, will be given any attention from collectors as the doubling is harder to miss than to see.

And yes, this is well worth putting in a flip.
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 Posted 03/31/2020  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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is something like this still relatively rare?



I agree that at least here on CCF, the interest level for error coins outside of the US (and Canada) seems to be much more thin.
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 Posted 04/01/2020  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome find! Very nice DDR!
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
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 Posted 04/02/2020  01:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Errers! I managed to cherry pick a second one off ebay, which I was pretty excited about as well.
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 Posted 04/02/2020  10:25 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I ended up find a nice major DDO on a Foriegn coin from August of 2018. http://goccf.com/t/326118
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
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 Posted 04/02/2020  10:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool, Errers! Also, sorry to hear about your grandfather, but I'm glad you seem to have found some closure. Did you ever find out a ballpark of what international doubled dies like his tend to be worth?
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 Posted 04/02/2020  11:10 am  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SamCoin, unfortunately I haven't really found an exact ballpark of what these Doubled Dies are worth. I know on eBay you can get most for fairly cheap.
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
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 Posted 04/02/2020  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too bad, but still exciting to find! I managed to snag the second one that I cherrypicked on Ebay for $1.86 tax/shipping included, so I feel like definitely well worth it for such a dramatic DDR.
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 Posted 04/02/2020  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The US coin market is quite unlike any other place in the world. The extreme interest with varieties and errors is only one example.

The lack of great interest in things like Doubled Dies for world coins creates opportunity for the few who want them.

It is probably the only place in the world that has kept it smallest denomination unchanged in size and shape for 150 years. That means that CRH can be productive given enough time and effort. Most countries do not have older coins in circulation due to currency reforms or inflation.
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 Posted 04/02/2020  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good points, Oriole!
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 Posted 04/09/2020  2:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I managed to cherrypick a second one in similar condition for under $2 on Ebay. My first ever ebay variety cherrypick!





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 Posted 04/09/2020  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome cherrypick SamCoin! Well done my friend!
More information about Die Deterioration? http://goccf.com/t/317950
Retired U.S. Mint Coin Die Set information. http://goccf.com/t/302961
Machine Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/332421
Die states progression on coins. Scroll down, so you can see the different die state progressions. http://goccf.com/t/325638
Die Deterioration Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/336470
Split Plate Doubling Tutorial. http://goccf.com/t/357614
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 Posted 05/01/2020  06:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sander to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:

The US coin market is quite unlike any other place in the world. The extreme interest with varieties and errors is only one example.

The lack of great interest in things like Doubled Dies for world coins creates opportunity for the few who want them.


Here in the Netherlands for example there is almost no interest in Doubled dies.. Last couple years I don't have time anymore to go through kilogram after kilogram to find those lovely variations..
But lately it start itching again to pick up my coin hobby.. Hopefully I find some time in the autumn/winter..

In the past I posted some of my finds in this topic..

http://goccf.com/t/79097&whichpage=17



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