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Authentic 1943 Copper Wheat Penny?

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 Posted 04/02/2020  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dust3110 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do not discuss the odds of it being real or not, just look at the coin and tell me what you think please.
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 Posted 04/02/2020  11:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Giwalsh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Opinions need to be based on observations and no one can observe with the photos you provided.
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 Posted 04/03/2020  12:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds like you think it's the real deal because it's origins date back to Grandpa.

We do not have the luxury of having the coin in hand to evaluate it. That is not going to change.

I suggest you have the coin 3rd party graded. We are at the point where this thread is just .....

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 Posted 04/03/2020  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Dust, how can anyone possibly discuss whether or not it's real or fake without discussing the likelihood of it being real? If you told us you had found a Faberge egg, the first point would be that you almost certainly did not because the odds are overwhelmingly, impossibly high against it. Knowing that there are only a few of these in existence and there are thousands of very competent forgeries out there, the standard of proof needs to be *way* higher to accept that this is the real thing than if you had found, say, a minor doubled die that no one would bother counterfeiting.
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 Posted 04/03/2020  01:50 am  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe it to be genuine. My opinion is worth a tad bit as I have actually handled a genuine 1943 copper, raw mind you, so I know what to look for.
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 Posted 04/03/2020  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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My opinion is worth a tad bit as I have actually handled a genuine 1943 copper, raw mind you, so I know what to look for.

, not a bad feat there son .
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 Posted 04/03/2020  09:30 am  Show Profile   Check Kloccwork419's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Kloccwork419 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When I blow the image up IGWT doesn't look right. The IN GOD especially. The letters are thin and look slanted and pieced together. The date is way off from what it should look like. Heres your cropped image. Others will see what I'mtalking about. Looks to be cast fake and definitely cleaned
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 Posted 04/03/2020  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those numbers certainly don't look right, I agree.
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 Posted 04/03/2020  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Check CalzoneManiac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add CalzoneManiac to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Someone should list the die pairs for regular 1943-S steel cents and see if they match up to the ones on this coin.
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 Posted 04/03/2020  6:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
dust3110, this is why we discuss the odds of it being real....

80 a piece by the hundred, any mint you want.



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 Posted 04/03/2020  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Check Errers and Varietys's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We already told you what we think, and you don't want to listen. Why ask then, what's the point? Don't get mad at us, it's immature. I think this thread is just a dead end. You refuse to listen and it's not good. You just don't want to hear it, do you?

Anyways, that's it and I am done.
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 Posted 04/03/2020  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I ordered 250 pieces, seemed like the best deal.
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 Posted 04/03/2020  9:31 pm  Show Profile   Check Yokozuna's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GrapeCollects said...


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My opinion is worth a tad bit as I have actually handled a genuine 1943 copper, raw mind you, so I know what to look for.


Too cool! What condition was the coin?!?
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 Posted 04/04/2020  08:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Someone should list the die pairs for regular 1943-S steel cents and see if they match up to the ones on this coin

You realize that would be around 400 die pairs.
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