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 Posted 06/01/2020  03:45 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Okay - here's another one. Talked the seller down to 530 USD and now I'm trying to talk myself into it.



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 Posted 06/01/2020  04:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JGpenny to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does it fit well in your collection? If yes get it!
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 Posted 06/01/2020  06:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Big difference in grades between ICCS and the US TPGs.

I don't know if that influences your buying decision, but I thought it's important to mention.
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 Posted 06/01/2020  06:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lakeman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a beautiful coin for sure....
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 Posted 06/01/2020  08:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So that works out to about $742 Canadian plus shipping, it is a nice coin.
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 Posted 06/01/2020  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Totally choice for grade.
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 Posted 06/01/2020  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Note what doubleeagle59 said.
Looking at the coin and your offer this is an EF40 coin in a holder with a higher grade on it, either EF45 or AU50.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 06/01/2020  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@doubleeagle59 and @DBM

It's currently graded XF45 at PCGS. I think that's pretty accurate - I don't see an AU there, though it's difficult to be 100% certain about the state of the surfaces/lustre.

Are you saying that you don't think it merits XF45?
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 Posted 06/01/2020  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Check TheDeductible's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Super rare in this condition and a beauty at that.

Go for it if you've got the $$!
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 Posted 06/01/2020  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the input everyone. Decided to go for it - I think it's accurately graded and, while 1870 isn't the rarest year, as @TheDeductable said, it's pretty rare at this grade level.

I'm on a coin purchasing rampage with this lockdown....it needs to slow down pretty soon!
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 Posted 06/02/2020  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numis-Northerner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One of the few accurately graded XF nfld halves I have seen from PCGS. If you like the coin, and like the price, then go for it, original accurately graded EF Newfoundland coins don't come up that often.
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 Posted 06/02/2020  02:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Everest to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great coin. Solid grade with original surfaces in the right holder IMO. Very difficult to find a nice clean original example. PCGS is much more strict on original surfaces than ICCS.
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 Posted 06/02/2020  06:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tamarin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is a huge leap forward from an 1872 also in this collection of threads. If that 1872 is a VF-30 as many insist then this coin is easily EF-45. Very nice and tough to get.
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 Posted 06/02/2020  07:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@tamarin - I find the Newfoundland 50c particularly difficult to grade. The contrast between VF-30 and EF-40/45 is where all the action is: the huge drop in eye appeal is often greater than the relatively small change on the Sheldon scale. It's that big, detailed braid - such a vulnerable target compared to the rest of the coin. Seems to degrade to a smeary, unappealing arc while the rest of the coin decays more in sync. Very different from the 5c, 10c and 20c: the braid takes a beating on those guys too but it manages to retain some detail at VF-20s and F-15s.

So that's what really attracted me to this one. The braid isn't perfect - a few more lines in the defending portion just behind the face and it would have made AU imo even with the few little dings and dents....
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 Posted 06/02/2020  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tamarin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Silver101, it is a tough series to grade but it's also a spectacular series to own in VF-20 or higher. Once the detail emerges the coin's iconic obverse portrait owns the room. I like this series and have many examples here. And you're right about the VF-30 and EF divide. It is really tough to get a service like ICCS to give an EF-40 on this Victorian set. And with that said I have had some EF-40 ICCS coins in this group in the past that I thought were undergraded as well. Terrific series to follow once VF is reached.
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 Posted 06/17/2020  10:11 am  Show Profile   Check TheDeductible's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add TheDeductible to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it as nice in hand? Beauty coin.
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