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1885-CC Morgan Dollar - Fake Or Genuine?

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 Posted 07/12/2020  10:36 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add RockyRock to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi Guys, Here is a 1885-CC I picked up lately and the coin is definitely genuine 1885 Morgan but not sure if it is an added mint mark forgery. These are the pictures I got from the seller for now... Please let me know your thoughts on this coin and also the possible grade if you think it is a genuine 1885- CC Morgan. Thanks in advance!

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 Posted 07/12/2020  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks Fake to me.
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 Posted 07/12/2020  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, fake. The lower ribbon design above the MM is wrong to my eye.
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 Posted 07/12/2020  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Blind Squirrel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, but it has too many issues.
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 Posted 07/12/2020  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Need better pictures.
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 Posted 07/12/2020  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add keith12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Photos just not clear enough
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 Posted 07/12/2020  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The photos are not good but the coin looks worse.
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 Posted 07/12/2020  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
agree. MM does not look correct
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 Posted 07/12/2020  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with @westernsky, the photos are not clear enough to be sure. Would you be willing to post clear close-up photos of:
the date
the mint mark
the edge of the coin next to the "DOL" of DOLLAR

Thanks!
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 Posted 07/14/2020  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smalldawg59 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
the reverse rim looks to be split somehow.
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 Posted 07/15/2020  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say genuine, but altered surfaces. Probably polished.
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 Posted 07/15/2020  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OP - what makes you say the coin is definitely genuine? To me it appears to be a Chinese forgery. Keep in mind most 85 CC Morgans were stored in bags until the 1960's and for the most part were quite baggy. This coin does not have any sign of being stored with nearly no marks or rub on the high points. If genuine it would be MS66 to MS67 maybe even approaching 68. Quite a remarkable example to be sitting raw in a dealer's inventory. Too good to be true I say.
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 Posted 07/15/2020  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Opinions here seem to be all over the map. We can discuss this coin till the cows come in but we will still be scratching our heads.

I think it needs to be sent in for 3rd party grading. ANACS would be best for a quick and economical evaluation.
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 Posted 07/15/2020  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RockyRock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dear Friends, thanks for all the inputs. I really appreciate it. Got the coin in hand today and this is definitely a wonderfully made fake. Only thing that gave it away was the thickness of the coin which did not look right to me and Upon comparison with geniune morgans I found that to be a tad thicker. Believe me, this coin will fool many as the weight was spot on and the obverse was a genuine semi proflike 1885. This possibly could be a perfect infusion of two different geniune coins. I still believe this coin has a 5% chance to be genuine but does not worth a 310$ gamble so packed and ready to go back to the seller. Thanks again for all your inputs.
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 Posted 07/15/2020  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wise decision. When in doubt, don't!
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 Posted 07/15/2020  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With respect, this coin has a 0% chance of being genuine. It is a straight-out fake, with many markers.
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