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1885-CC Morgan Dollar - Fake Or Genuine?

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 Posted 07/12/2020  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Keith67 to your friends list
Photos just not clear enough
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 Posted 07/12/2020  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
The photos are not good but the coin looks worse.
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 Posted 07/12/2020  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list
agree. MM does not look correct
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 Posted 07/12/2020  2:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list
I agree with @westernsky, the photos are not clear enough to be sure. Would you be willing to post clear close-up photos of:
the date
the mint mark
the edge of the coin next to the "DOL" of DOLLAR

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 Posted 07/14/2020  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smalldawg59 to your friends list
the reverse rim looks to be split somehow.
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 Posted 07/15/2020  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
I'd say genuine, but altered surfaces. Probably polished.
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 Posted 07/15/2020  09:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
OP - what makes you say the coin is definitely genuine? To me it appears to be a Chinese forgery. Keep in mind most 85 CC Morgans were stored in bags until the 1960's and for the most part were quite baggy. This coin does not have any sign of being stored with nearly no marks or rub on the high points. If genuine it would be MS66 to MS67 maybe even approaching 68. Quite a remarkable example to be sitting raw in a dealer's inventory. Too good to be true I say.
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 Posted 07/15/2020  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Opinions here seem to be all over the map. We can discuss this coin till the cows come in but we will still be scratching our heads.

I think it needs to be sent in for 3rd party grading. ANACS would be best for a quick and economical evaluation.
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 Posted 07/15/2020  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RockyRock to your friends list
Dear Friends, thanks for all the inputs. I really appreciate it. Got the coin in hand today and this is definitely a wonderfully made fake. Only thing that gave it away was the thickness of the coin which did not look right to me and Upon comparison with geniune morgans I found that to be a tad thicker. Believe me, this coin will fool many as the weight was spot on and the obverse was a genuine semi proflike 1885. This possibly could be a perfect infusion of two different geniune coins. I still believe this coin has a 5% chance to be genuine but does not worth a 310$ gamble so packed and ready to go back to the seller. Thanks again for all your inputs.
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 Posted 07/15/2020  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list
Wise decision. When in doubt, don't!
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 Posted 07/15/2020  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
With respect, this coin has a 0% chance of being genuine. It is a straight-out fake, with many markers.
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 Posted 07/16/2020  07:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
$310 is about half of what a well circulated example is worth. If it's too good to be true.....well you know...
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 Posted 07/16/2020  07:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fenton to your friends list
What is the weight on it? If silver, then probably genuine. None of the fakers bother to use the right metal.
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 Posted 07/16/2020  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RockyRock to your friends list
It weighed perfect. Scale flickered between 26.7 and 26.8 which is what I see for all my genuine Morgans in my scale. I do believe it is silver as well.
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 Posted 07/16/2020  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
If it's thicker than a genuine Morgan and the weight is correct, then it almost certainly isn't silver. The reason they made it thicker it to get the weight right when using a lighter metal.
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