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What Are The Odds That A Graded Coin Would Be Graded As "Detail"

 
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 Posted 08/07/2020  5:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hidalgo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
What are the odds that a graded coin from a second-tier party grader (say from ANACS or ICG), rated as MS/Uncirculated, would be rated as "Detail" from a first-tier TPB (e.g., PCGS or NGC)?

I am trying to decide if I should have my expensive second-tier TPG coins regraded so that they can be evaluated by the first-tier TPG.

Thoughts? Experiences?
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 Posted 08/07/2020  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mmmmm. If the coin is actually details and not graded accordingly chances are that if submitted again, it will get the details grade. I don't think it's a matter of 1st tier or 2nd tier. I've had coins that were details and graded straight by NGC.
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 Posted 08/07/2020  5:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hidalgo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have second-tier TPG graded coins that are NOT "detail." I'm a bit concerned that if I submit them to PCGS or NGC, they might come back as "detail."

Personally, I can't tell the difference between a detail and non-detail coin.
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Personally, I can't tell the difference between a detail and non-detail coin.

If you can't tell the difference between a straight and details coin , then you shouldn't bother having your coins sent in for grading . You would be wasting too much money in submitting costs . I understand that you may not tell with every coin ,but you should have a good idea what makes for a details graded coin .
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 Posted 08/07/2020  6:19 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with T-BOP, you should have a good idea about what you are submitting. Otherwise you're throwing expensive darts at a dartboard while dizzy and blindfolded.

Re your original question. It depends on the coin of course. Most coins that straight graded at ICG & ANACS would straight grade at PCGS & NGC IMO.
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 Posted 08/07/2020  10:04 pm  Show Profile   Check edweather's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Post a couple pics on the grading forum, and see what people think.
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I have second-tier TPG graded coins that are NOT "detail." I'm a bit concerned that if I submit them to PCGS or NGC, they might come back as "detail."

So send it to PCGS as a crossover. If it will cross as a non details coins you get it back straight graded in a PCGS holder. If me back as details they won't crack it out and it will come back in the original straight graded holder.

You can't do the crossover with NGC, they only accept PCGS coins for crossover.
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 Posted 08/08/2020  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hidalgo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Conder101. This is the most helpful answer I've seen. I am a novice coin collector. I can't tell the difference between a detail coins and a non-detail coin in most cases. However, I want to ensure that my coins are high-quality, uncleaned, and collectible.

Thanks again.
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 Posted 08/08/2020  12:38 pm  Show Profile   Check Lancek's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Lancek to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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You can't do the crossover with NGC, they only accept PCGS coins for crossover.


You can, you just need one additional form.

"Coins holdered by other grading services are not eligible for CrossOver and must be removed from their holders and submitted raw (not holdered), or they may be submitted in their holders if they are accompanied by NGC's Consent to Remove Coin(s) from Holder(s) Form."
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You can, you just need one additional form.

"Coins holdered by other grading services are not eligible for CrossOver and must be removed from their holders and submitted raw (not holdered), or they may be submitted in their holders if they are accompanied by NGC's Consent to Remove Coin(s) from Holder(s) Form."


That's not a crossover, that's NGC grading a raw coin.
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