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Antoninus Pius AR Denarius. Unlisted One Or Mule?

 
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 Posted 08/13/2020  10:06 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add pastpost to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Dear friends,
I've got two denarius of Antoninus Pius. Both of them have the same reverse COS IIII.
The left coin is RIC 137 ANTONINVS AVG PIVS PP.
The right denarius averse is posthumous DIVVS ANTONINVS.
I can not find the coin in RIC. May be mule or unlisted one?





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08/13/2020 10:07 am
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Germany
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 Posted 08/13/2020  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DirtyHarry to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi! If you are sure about its authenticity, then it certainly looks like a mystery to me.

I have never seen a DIVVS ANTONINVS coin stating on the reverse how many times the deified emperor has been consul.
My experience of course, is very limited compared to other fellow forum members, so I recommend waiting for more opinions.

The first coin, RIC 137, has been struck from 145 to 147 AD. That means, it ceased to be minted 14 years before the emperor's death. Perhaps they are not the same reverse dies as in the DIVVS specimen? Otherwise, quite odd.
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08/14/2020 02:20 am
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France
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 Posted 08/14/2020  07:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pastpost to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is 100% authentic.May be immitation?
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 Posted 08/14/2020  09:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kushanshah to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both coins appear to be fourrees. The copper core is exposed on the left coin. The lumps in the field on the right coin are likely blisters where the copper core is corroding below the silver plate. Sometimes the counterfeiters mismatched obverse and reverse.
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08/14/2020 09:46 am
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 Posted 08/14/2020  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pastpost to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The first coin (left one) weight is 2,99 g.
The weight of the second coin is really too heavy - 3.55 g.
I think it's silver platted one...
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 Posted 08/14/2020  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd wager it is probably an imitation - Not sure whether it's a fourree or not, but the mint shouldn't have still had the thunderbolt-over-altar reverse dies by the time Pius had died, so a mule is nearly impossible.
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