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1963 Jefferson Nickel Proof, How Does This Happen--MD?

 
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 Posted 10/15/2020  10:07 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add shantiom to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I learned the 1963 Proof Nickels have several varieties. With one, upon higher magnification and sharpness, the M in EPU on the obverse, has the two bases of the M split, but the camera shows a scrape to, I am not sure this is a DDR but a form of MD, yes, if so, how does this happen without leaving a complete horizontal line...in the pick the elevation point on the base of the two vertical lines of the M is intact, if MD, would the line not go through this elevation point?
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 Posted 10/15/2020  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it is a DDR. That is the direction of a lot of the nickel DDRs. Remember what you are seeing on these nickels is called spread. What dies that mean? When the die was created, the hub locations created a spread of the miss match locations on the new die created. This spread can vary from die to die. Thus when a die is attributed as a doubled die, the spread will be different from die to die. Affecting some areas stronger and others weaker. So when matching to a certain die, all the spreads on all devices must match. Just like fingerprints must be an exact match to a person, same for matching up to dies. All devices must match exactly. (Die wear can alter the devices on class 2 doubled dies as the doubling is near the outside edge of the devices can be worn off the coin) Strength will vary. Some will be stronger across the USA, from one side to the other and also the opposite as well. If the hub was not an exact match on the die, a doubled die will appear. Glad to see someone posting this, so it was time to share what images I have) Also note the spread is on the devices, where as Machine Doubling only shows on the outside edges, reducing that area.
Even some Tripled dies also:
1963 nickels:






On tripled dies, sometimes they are harder to see and not all of the devices will be affected the same.


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CoopHome : 1963 1964 Nickel DDR's
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 10/15/2020  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add helpmethanks to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@coop can you show us your coin collecting ?
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I use a lot of posted images and stuff I download from the sites. But most of these images are examples I found. I used to by rolls of proof cents and nickels on line, but lean more towards, 1960-1964 proof cents and proof nickels. But I've not searched as much lately. I spend most of my time creating images and answering questions. I have an inventory of my variety coins. But it would be hard to even post the list.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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Great question and as always great answer by COOP
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Well I see a lot of people showing Machine Doubling as they look and don't see a spread on the devices, then they look harder and find Machine Doubling on the outside edges of the devices. Thus seeing a lot of images allows the brain to see where to look for the hub doubling. Spread in the center.
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 10/15/2020  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shantiom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Awesome!! I am learning so much, thank you @coop.
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