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1987 Lincoln Memorial Cent PCGS Graded Error? "Ridge Ring"

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 Posted 10/23/2020  10:40 pm Show Profile   Check Yokozuna's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add Yokozuna to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I saw this coin posted on Facebook. Do you think that PCGS should have called it an error?



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 Posted 10/23/2020  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephm99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion no as this isn't even an error but die wear.
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 Posted 10/23/2020  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen a few of these in slabs, and it amazes me every time. This should not be considered an error. It's just a product of die wear. .

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 Posted 10/24/2020  03:48 am  Show Profile   Check spruett001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spruett001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I guess I would ask: is this due to die wear, as I thought, or is this caused by a plating issue as PCGS suggests?
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 Posted 10/24/2020  04:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would like to read what coop has to say on it, as well as what Mike has to say.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  06:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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 Posted 10/24/2020  09:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ridge ring, just die wear. Hard to believe someone would spend the money to slab this.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Die Deterioration/Deformation Errors:
Severe Die Wear:
Design-Devouring Die Wear
http://www.error-ref.com/?s=ridge+ring

Here is what Mike calls it.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I've always considered Die Deterioration a type of die damage and not a striking error or die error.

Great news , now we have to start collecting damaged die "varieties", since many can be produced, even as the damage progresses. No thanks.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is ridiculous.

Not only is it just extremely common and worthless, it's not even a plating error like the say on the slab.

ALSO IT'S GRADED MS?!
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 Posted 10/24/2020  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well they will slab a few and then stop listing these. (That is what happened on the 1969-D FS-901 listings) After someone slabs it, then sells off, and the buyer get stuck with a slab that is not a real collectable coin, the original seller is the only one who comes out ahead.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  2:37 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Coop The 1969 FS-901 was previously a CherryPickers' Guide variety, a large number of collectors regarded it as a collectible variety. It is understandable that PCGS would slab them up until it was removed from the book.

This ridge ring coin being slabbed by PCGS is unprecedented. PCGS should understand that this isn't really an error and no collectors believe otherwise.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  4:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This ridge ring coin being slabbed by PCGS is unprecedented. PCGS should understand that this isn't really an error and no collectors believe otherwise.


So true T-man and I agree with you. But.... technically, Error-ref does desrcibe it as an error in Coop's link, even though it really is die damage from Die Deterioration.

PCGS will only attribute CPG varieties but will evidently attribute trash "errors" if they can collect their fees.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Check Tanman2001's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Tanman2001 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know, still "technically" an error. But Die Deterioration is more of a die state, as some call it, as every die will eventually show some form of Die Deterioration at some point.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS seems to be calling this a plating error, not a ridge ring from Die Deterioration, based off the description of the error; "Minor Obv Plating Ridge"

I'm curious to see what it looks like in hand because based off that description there should be something the delineates it from a standard ridge ring.
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