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2019 -2018 Penny Doubling REV Obv

 
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 Posted 10/24/2020  2:44 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add noobz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Many new coins to shiny to spot the difference between MD and DD
This looks obvious to me. And it is on both sides. What do you think?
I got a couple of 2018 like that as well.





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 Posted 10/24/2020  2:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not doubled dies. Just a lot of glare and the start of DDD on the 2019 date. Hub doubling is not on the outside edges of devices. Machine Doubling and glare is seen strongest on those areas/ The spread on a doubled die is on the centers of the devices:

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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

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 Posted 10/24/2020  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noobz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am just trying to get it straight. I got an opinion that everything that is not split completely (like in 1955) or not having a slight rotation or shift angle can be put in the category of DDD?
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DDD is a later die state when the devices move towards the rims:

This is from extreme die wear.

DDO is a Doubled die Obverse that show hub doubling as a spread on the devices on the centers of them:




Note where the doubling is? It is one the centers of the devices. The outside edges of devices are the areas Machine Doubling affects:

Again note, there is no doubling on the centers of the devices, it is on the outside edges of the devices.

The Machine Doubling alters the outside edges of the devices. making them smaller:

This is caused by the machine. On a doubled die, the die is doubled, thus the devices are doubled on every coin struck with that die:

Note again the affected areas are on the center of the devices?

Again on the centers of the devices, enlarging the devices.


Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 10/24/2020  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noobz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, coop! that is great info! I saved all images. Still, I want to make sure that DDD spread only on the diametre lines no other dirrection?
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 Posted 10/24/2020  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noobz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just yesterday I jumped on nickels, not knowing anything about it, I was going to post this picture on a separate topic.
On this 1999 nickel, the spread goes toward the center, not the rim. I thought it was a DDD. The reason - the spread completely surrounds the mintmark. Now I guess it is MD?

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 Posted 10/24/2020  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
noobz,
It would be best if you blocked off all but one light @ 12k position on your scope and put a filter on that one.
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 Posted 10/24/2020  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noobz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We'll do John1. I know my scope is suck - a cheap digital one. That is why many images I take look flat sometimes. I am not that professional who has a good microscope. I will consider using some filters or extra lighting for volume.
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The last nickel is all Machine Doubling. Note it is affecting the outside part of the devices. Look for the spread on the centers of the devices. Look for widening there. Machine Doubling alters the fresh struck coin. It pushes the devices contour of the devices aside, just like when you push snow into a new location.
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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