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1852 3 Cent Silver - Is This A Clipped Planchet?

 
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 Posted 10/29/2020  4:03 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Beware_Of_Doug to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I hadn't looked at this coin in years and noticed it might be a clipped planchet error....or has it been dented. Looking from the side it is NOT thicker which might indicate being hit from the side.

Many thanks in advance for your opinion

My guess is it's a minor (very minor) clipped planchet but then again what do I know?




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 Posted 10/29/2020  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MOS0239 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After first seeing the coin my first thought was damage but now I can't tell.
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 Posted 10/29/2020  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Kcm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I could win a "Who knows less?" contest against most challengers.My eye is drawn to the shallowness of the rim on the reverse at the missing section. The obverse rim shows a different treatment;little interior damage. It seems to me a clipped planchet would not show so much front to back discrepancy. My guess is abrasive wear back to front -- but what do I know?

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 Posted 10/29/2020  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I tend to agree that it's was a clipped planchet.
Describe it as if there were no picture.
Picture it as if there were no description.
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 Posted 10/29/2020  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MOS0239 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To damage to even see or make out a Blakesley effect.
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 Posted 10/29/2020  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Clip looks legit to me. Is the coin also bent?



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 Posted 10/29/2020  6:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The reverse is upside down.

Check the weight to see if it is normal? Then you will know for sure if it is damage of a clipped planchet. (Normal is .80 Grams)
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 Posted 10/29/2020  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a clipped planchet to me.
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 Posted 10/29/2020  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen several like this on ebay over the last couple of years and I've never been able to make up my mind. So although 3CS are my series I haven't pulled the trigger so I haven't had them in hand.

These are better photos than the usual listing and I'm saying damage.

On the obverse the rim is pushed inside the natural circumference of the rim. Even if the upsetting mill raised the protorim the flat field of the die should have pushed it back out.

On the reverse, the missing part looks cut.

But I'll defer to any real expert's opinion.
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 Posted 10/30/2020  12:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the clip is real.
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 Posted 10/30/2020  05:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beware_Of_Doug to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Coin is not bent and look totally flat (i.e. no bugle near clip/defect). I am unable to weigh accurately as my scales don't go below 1 gram.

Many thanks for all the suggestions and comments....seems evenly split between clip and other damage
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 Posted 11/04/2020  12:31 am  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does have a look of a real clip, these older coins can be tricky to tell, especially the really small size doesn't help nor does the thinness. I too think it's a good clip. Worth a premium though? Not much if any.

I also don't know how much of the blakesley effect would even show on this little coin.
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