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Post #82: Please Help Identify Seleucid Ae 21mm

 
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 Posted 11/27/2020  3:29 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add twood89 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This coin is 21mm in diameter an weighs 12.58g. It appears to be a Seleucid coin of some sort, but other than that I'm not sure at all. Please let me know if you guys have an idea about what this specifically is.

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 Posted 11/27/2020  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add micha to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe is Antiochos VII Sidetes
i couldn't find a link for bronze, only a silver coin to compare the symbol on the left
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ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ is at the right, if you can see any tracks at the left of the word ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ that's him
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 Posted 11/27/2020  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twood89 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On the left side of the reverse I am able to make out "TPIOY" at the end. The letters before that are too far off flan to distinguish
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 Posted 11/27/2020  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add micha to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 11/27/2020  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like the coin may have been lacquered hence the dark black color. A soak in acetone should clean it off.
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 Posted 11/27/2020  4:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twood89 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the help, and I will try to clean it with acetone
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 Posted 11/27/2020  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@twood, can you clarify if the coin is silver with a layer of heavy varnish or rather bronze?

We were typing at the same time. I'm interested to see what this coin looks like after its bath.
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 Posted 11/27/2020  4:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add micha to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
gloves and eyes protection glasses when using acetone definitely
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 Posted 11/27/2020  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twood89 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is what the coin looks like after the acetone bath. It definitely took some residue off, especially on the edge. There was originally some tan gunk on the edge, gone now.

But its still just a bronze...

I paid $6.36 for it as part of a lot of poorly pictured Roman coins on Ebay (this was the only Non-Roman one)

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 Posted 11/27/2020  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add twood89 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I cannot find any bronze examples of my coin online. It seems like the eagle reverse was only used for the silver coins, but not the bronze ones.

Do you guys think my coin is forged, or something else weird like that?
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 Posted 11/27/2020  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If the cleaning is revealing bronze underneath, then that's a problem. There are fakes of these in bronze.
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Oh, yikes. Then I'm guessing this is a fake. And it wouldnt be a contemporary forgery, right?
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 Posted 11/27/2020  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I suspect modern, similar to this fake:

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Yep, looks the same. I'll attribute this as a fake then. Thanks for the help on this one.
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 Posted 11/27/2020  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Check echizento's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would also suspect a fake that was disguised with the lacquer to cover it up.
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