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Eye Candy: 1858 Canada Twenty Cent PCGS SP-65

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PCGS - Today marks an interesting day in numismatics as sources attribute December 12th as the debut of the first circulating decimal coinage in Canada. Those are listed as the 1858 one, five, ten, and twenty cent. This fantastic twenty cent is graded PCGS SP65, the current finest known. Very few examples exist, with six in the current PCGS population. The ones that are known have been in a part of some very important collections including those of Norweb and Pittman.

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Pretty remarkable, thanks.
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 Posted 12/12/2020  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another example of misinformation from CCFPress.
Does anyone read these things before they are posted?
The coin shown is not a 1858 20 cent specimen.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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12/12/2020 7:09 pm
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Tell PCGS about it..... and could you possibly be more vague?
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It's apparently a PC-4 pattern and all SP strikes.
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why the hate?
if the information is wrong then provide the needed corrections, or privately email Bobby so that it can be corrected.
sorry, but I don't see anything constructive in your post, in fact it's just the opposite
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It is a specimen strike, but not a specimen in the sense of it being an example of an actual 1858 20cent coin.
It is a pattern and a mule, it has the obverse of the Canadian 20cent coin paired with the reverse of a New Brunswick 20cent coin.
There are actually six specimen strike specimens of the actual as issued 20cent coin.
The highest graded of these six is SP65.
This is the coin that should accompany the article;
https://www.PCGS.com/valueview/spec...=31701&h=pop
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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It's a gorgeous coin but DBM is correct. It's not a design accurate 1858 twenty cent piece.
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Take a look at the crown on the reverse. You'll see pretty quick, a gorgeous coin eitherway.
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I already tried correcting them on their instagram where it was posted...no changes since yesterday morning
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This piece is beautiful and is a specimen strike, but it is neither a specimen of the adopted Canadian design nor a pattern for for that issue. As I discussed in another thread the reverse tools were engraved in 1862 for the New Brunswick 20 cents. What this piece really represents is a back-dated official concoction, probably made for museum display purposes. It fits in the same category as the 1875-dated New Brunswick 5 & 10c pieces.
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THAT is a good looking coin!

Thanks for sharing. Wow.
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 Posted 12/15/2020  09:42 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glad we got this all cleared up and now realize exactly what it is .
Thanks to JHAX!
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