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2001 D Nickel Error? New Better Pictures Added

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 Posted 01/11/2021  2:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ratsunracing to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,
I am completely new to the forum, and want to start off by saying I know VERY little about coins.
A long time ago I found this 2001 D nickel that has no outer "rim" the outer edge is inverse like the press did not stamp hard enough, but looking at the coin you can see most of the features like some of the steps on the back, and a lot of the details on the front, I weighed the coin and it does weigh 5 grams.
I found it around 2004 and put it in a box with some other old coins I have found over the years. unfortunately it got some type of marking on the face as you can see from the dark spots, but is still in okay shape.
Hopefully someone with some knowledge can chime in and give me some insight? Let me know if I need to capture better pictures, or a more specific angle\portion of the coin.

"edit" Looking at the picture of the back of the coin after I posted and its horrible. I will post a better picture this afternoon.

Thank you in advance!!

Eric


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01/11/2021 7:01 pm
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 Posted 01/11/2021  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your first picture shows an example of what a coin looks like after it is taken out of a bezel.
Something like this Buffalo is in.........


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 Posted 01/11/2021  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratsunracing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought something similar happened when I first found the coin, but "and I will get some good pictures in a few hrs." on the face of the coin near the edges the features don't seem to be too uniform the further out they are, almost like it was not stamped hard enough. The outer inverse line is a pretty defined but not like it was clamped, unless it was worn down long after it was clamped in something.
I have not measured the outer edge to compare it to another I can do that when I get pictures as well

I really appreciate the reply, it may be someone just put it in one if those holders and it has worn differently due to not having a rim around the edge anymore

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 Posted 01/11/2021  4:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rothery to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I will get some good pictures in a few hrs.

Fair enough.......
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 Posted 01/11/2021  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 01/11/2021  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratsunracing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok here are a few good pictures, including a side by side with a normal nickel.








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 Posted 01/12/2021  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratsunracing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Would it help if I got measurements of the OD thickness of the coin where the lip is at, where it is flush with the coin, and compared that to another similar year nickel?
I appreciate all of the help and you welcoming me into the community! I have been cruising through posts for the last few days and learned a lot already.
I was upset I lost a nickel that was colored exactly like a penny, well a quick search on this forum let me know it was just environmental damage turned it that color and it was nothing special.

Thanks again!
Eric
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 Posted Yesterday   1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratsunracing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone have anymore thoughts, should I hang onto this coin, or do you think it's just damaged?
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It looks rough like damage. Is the coin under weight? If so, the coin was damaged. (should be 5 grams to be normal)
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 Posted Yesterday   2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratsunracing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No It's 5 grams but that is on a harbor freight digital scale IDK how accurate those are? I did test with another nickel and it showed 5 grams as well
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Try another nickel on it to see if the tare is set. If it show 5.0 then it would give tenths. it is just say 5 then it may be not accurate enough? Or maybe the normal edge metal was moved, but still on the coin? If so, it maybe bulging outwards on that area?
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted Yesterday   2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratsunracing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay,
Just took it back to the scale and double checked the scale was level, zeroed, etc. It does weight 5 grams and a tested with 2 other nickels to confirm they both showed 5 grams as well.
So the upper part of the coin has less of an edge like its overall thicker in that area, and the lettering is a lot less pronounced. I dont know if this is from wearing differently due to damage? I appreciate your assistance, I am learning!

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Could this be a partial collar strike?

You may need to add an image or two of the edge of the coin where the discrepancy is. And a good clear full image of both sides wouldn't hurt.
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Unfortunately I do not have my USB microscope at home, here are a few pictures I have from my cell phone camera. One thing to note is at the top of the coin the ridge is almost non existent, this is the same on the rear of the coin where the "ES" in states is.





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I have looked through 100s of pictures of partial collar struck coins, as well as broad struck coins. Both varieties have similarities to this coin, but I still don't know what to think. I do have a coin shop that is fairly close I could take it to and see what they have to say. Before I do that I am going to take it to work and measure the thickness compared to another coin because I believe this coin is thicker in spots compared to a "normal" nickel.

I had this coin in with a bunch of other coins and a old watch with a leather band. I believe the leather band caused the coins to start growing green stuff. I read to only clean coins if absolutely necessary and if I do use only warm water, is that accurate? If not what is the best way to get rid of the nasty green stuff growing on some of these coins?

Thanks again!

Eric
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