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Of Antioch - Severus Alexander Needs Attribution ?

 
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 Posted 01/16/2021  1:04 pm Show Profile   Check FVRIVS RVFVS's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am attempting to clear out all the accumulated detritus of the past few years
Things that eluded my best attempts at attribution

Portrait seems to be a dead ringer for Diadumenian !
(pencil neck prepubescent male around 10 years old)
But the Obv. legend obviously does not match
What can be read with any degree of certainty is
CEO - AΛEΞA
while the remaining worn letters seem to leave enough for it to read
AΛEΞANΔPOC CEB
and that means it can only be Alexander Severus

The reverse is clearly Seleucis and Pieria Antioch
But where is the ram leaping above the seated Tyche ?
I did find an exact match on acsearch but the seller had recorded no attribution ......
Arghhhh
Any assistance most welcome for this curious bronze

9.91 grams 25-6mm

IN GOD WE TRVST ....... all others pay cash !

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 Posted 01/16/2021  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iulius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe when Alexander was Caesar 221-222 under Emperor Elagabalus
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=5160112
Edited by iulius
01/16/2021 4:15 pm
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 Posted 01/16/2021  4:46 pm  Show Profile   Check FVRIVS RVFVS's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes I looked at that one too
In fact I checked every one I could find
The shortened legend with the wide break at the top seemed to match
I briefly thought that must be the answer
The portrait certainly seems to imply a very young boy
The missing Ram above the seated Tyche also seemed to indicate similarity
But the legends don't !



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 Posted 01/16/2021  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bob L to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
But the legends don't !


Are you referring to the reverse legend? ANTIOXEΩ (of ANTIOXEΩN) is visible on your coin, the coin iulius linked to, and the one I linked to.

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 Posted 01/16/2021  5:20 pm  Show Profile   Check FVRIVS RVFVS's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes my apologies
The one Julius pointed to I had seen earlier today and in fact I thought for a moment I might actually have an Alex Severus as Caesar which would help explain the difficulty in finding a similar one

But the one you (Bob L) found is indeed a match
In fact I believe it may well be (as the unattributed match I found on acsearch) a die match
Perhaps they are "First Day" issues of the new emperor after the assassination of Elagabalus

So .....
McAlee 2007, no. 847 is the attribution ?
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 Posted 01/16/2021  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Check FVRIVS RVFVS's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The legend as Caesar reads
MAP AVPHΛI AΛΞANΔPOC CE
While this one reads
AVT KAI M AV CEO AΛEΞANΔΡOC CE
Which indicates the "promotion" from Caesar
IN GOD WE TRVST ....... all others pay cash !

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Edited by FVRIVS RVFVS
01/16/2021 5:27 pm
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