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1971 Error Penny Look At Lincoln Shirt

 
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 Posted 05/17/2021  6:04 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Robert hensley to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The shirt shows what seem to be something on the die when it was pressed
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 Posted 05/17/2021  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Surely if you're using a USB microscope, there has to be a built in feature either through the scope's own software or through your computer to take a screen shot. Photos of screens aren't just mildly infuriating, they also make it really hard to make out details of the coin.
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Please supply a complete photo ( not a screen shot) of both sides along
with a shot of your area of concern when you are inquiring about a coin.
This helps us in diagnosing what you have.
From the photo supplied it is hard to make out anything.
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Looks interesting, but better pics are in order.
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 Posted 05/17/2021  9:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
interesting. Need much better pictures, however going from this one, I'll take an amateur stab at it.
Not sure where the light is coming in from, I'm guessing from above from multiple LEDs. The mark looks incuse with the 'trench' all lit up and from multiple lights that are creating shadows on both sides of the 'trench'. So, if so then PMD.
I guess the question to ask now is the mark raised or incuse?

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If the affected area is incuse, it is a coin issue. If it is raised, then it is a die issue. So depending on which it is? The answer will be one of the two I suggested.
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It looks raised to me.
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It appears that part of the rim broke off when it was pressed
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 Posted 05/18/2021  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I gotta know, is that raised or incused?
It looks incused to me because looking at the area next to the rim below the Lincoln bust it seems to be at the same level before cutting across the bust itself. Then at the end of the anomaly it almost
looks raised as it drops off the bust (judging from the shadow). But the lighting from all directions makes it very hard to determine that.
Can you remove it from the 2x2 and only use one light source to photograph it?

I would like to see a better shot of the rim area where it begins. Maybe it is raised, maybe there is a cud-like mass of material there.
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The last image was a lot better to see what is going on. It appears to have definite ends, not trailing off like a scratch is. Also I'm not seeing a wave affect. So I feel this is a struck through error. Possible wire. This is a mint error. Interesting to new collectors, with a modest premium. Nothing to even consider to have graded, because of the condition of the coin is in and the error is not all that major. But it is a struck through error. What was different from the first image and the last image was better? Showing the full length of the affected area and the anlge to see the trench, and not seeing if there was a wave or not. That is what we need to see on this type of mint error.
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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