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Doubled Die Vs Machine Doubled And Other Questions

 
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 Posted 06/15/2021  05:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add DVLDG23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello all, I inherited a small coin collection that doesn't seem to stick to any certain type of coins.

My uncle just has a bit of everything (well I'm sure not everything it just seems like a decent spread to my newbie eyes). Some stuff is graded and most isn't. Since receiving it it has sparked my interest and I have added a few things I thought were cool while looking into coins and learning a few things.

One thing I'm really struggling to understand is the doubled die vs machine doubled. I've been trying to read up, listen to opinions and watch videos. It seems like there's plenty of people out there that don't quite understand it as well and some who don't understand it that will give their opinions and I find their opinions to be way off base.

I purchased a coin microscope and have begun looking at coinage at a closer view. I'd like to understand this topic better. I've always had a way of being able to explain things to people so they can comprehend things better (a teaching ability for lack of a better term). But in order for one to teach they have to fully understand what it is they are attempting to explain.

So are there any key factors that happen with a true doubled die that don't take place with Machine Doubling? And vice vs? What should I know about the individual characteristics and how they differ from one another?

Also I posted in this thread because I have an example I'd like to post pictures of and see if anyone is willing to look at these pictures and help me understand better which is taking place and why?

I'm still very new not only to coins but to technology too so please if I make a mistake correct me so I may learn the proper etiquette and format in which things are done correctly. Thank you in advance and I'm excited to learn more about your world!
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 Posted 06/15/2021  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
( I'm no pro, it's just my humble opinion )
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 Posted 06/15/2021  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Start a new thread (topic) and show us your coins there. One coin at a time, please. We like to see the entire coin, both sides, then a few closeups of areas of interest. Multiple coins is confusing to reply to, that's why we ask for one coin per thread. We encourage you to ask us questions but first use the search box on the left side atop of each page here on CCF to see if the subject has already been asked and answered. We look forward to see what coins you have to show us and ask about!

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 Posted 06/15/2021  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the Community!

Your reply was split into its own topic for the proper attention.
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 Posted 06/15/2021  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SamCoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with Merclover, I think we would all love to see some of the coins!
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Massive strike through error on 1957-P Jefferson nickel http://goccf.com/t/402781
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 Posted 06/15/2021  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This will be fun!
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 Posted 06/15/2021  4:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well here is an obvious one:
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 06/15/2021  8:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Under magnification Machine Doubling appears like a flat shelf along the side of the devices (the raised parts of the coin). It took me awhile to be able to tell it apart from a doubled die. With a true droubled die, the doubled areas are generally not so flat. You can learn the difference by looking at the helpful examples that get posted here from time to time. For your coins, a 10x loupe will be more helpful than a microscrope because the loupe lets you more easily view a coin at various angles, which makes it easier to see the flat shelf.
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 Posted 06/16/2021  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On the image above, the MD area is a removal of the devices but a kick in the shins to the die. Note how the above devices are reduced, when the contour is removed from the devices? (Compare with the normal size images above that in the collage)
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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