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 Posted 06/16/2021  8:20 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add LightningLTH to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello everyone.

This is my first time on this site.

My father recently left me with a sizable penny stash. When going through the pennies I came across this penny which appears to be double struck on the obverse. The front is worn out so I can't see a date. It looks like an error coin since it is more elongated than a normal penny. I put a normal penny in the picture for comparison.

Can someone tell me if this is a genuine error coin?

Thank you

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 Posted 06/16/2021  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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That is what is known as a vise or garage job. Damaged coin.
It has been intentionally done by putting another coin on it and
either squeezing or pounding the impression on it.
Also that is the Reverse. Lincoln's head is the Obverse.
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 Posted 06/16/2021  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@lig, first welcome to CCF. Second, while there is a possibility that your coin is a legit error, much more likely is that it was squeezed between two other cents in order to make a pretend error. Can you please add a close-up of just this coin to this thread? Thx.
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 Posted 06/16/2021  8:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree, please show us close-ups of the suspect coin.



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 Posted 06/16/2021  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LightningLTH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's hard to get a good closeup using my phone camera but let me know if these pictures are better.

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 Posted 06/16/2021  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altec12 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think your first pics were closer up.

But also a tad bit clearer. Enought to see that the letters on the reverse "One Cent" are reversed on second 'strike', which is consistant with a vise job.
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 Posted 06/16/2021  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep this one is a vice job too. Good eyes @alt! Here is a slightly better close-up of the OP's coin:


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 Posted 06/16/2021  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LightningLTH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for your responses. Bummer that this isn't a legit error coin. Thought I struck gold! Lol. I'll keep searing through the stash. Never know what hidden treasures are lurking.
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 Posted 06/16/2021  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Check GrapeCollects's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GrapeCollects to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is what a genuine double struck cent looks like:

http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
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1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
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 Posted 06/16/2021  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LightningLTH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Apologies in advance if this is a noob question, but is it possible that this penny got left in the same spot when a second penny was struck on top of it making an impression of the second penny on the first coin? Probably not but I thought I'd ask.
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Yes it is possible. That's called a brockage. If the brockage host coin strikes multiple coins it can become a die cap.
http://www.error-ref.com/brockage-full/
http://www.error-ref.com/obversediecap/
My best finds: 1999-WAM:http://goccf.com/t/332161 1988-RDV-6:http://goccf.com/t/335954#2873459 1986-Off-center: http://goccf.com/t/335952
1999 WAM #2:http://goccf.com/t/338710&whichpage=1
1981 Double Struck In Collar: http://goccf.com/t/350199&whichpage=1
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 Posted 06/16/2021  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not in this case. The image is reversed, which means it was achieved artificially.
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 Posted 06/16/2021  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The image is reversed, and the is no rim on the obverse. Two giveaways that it's a fake error, sorry.

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 Posted 06/17/2021  10:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Note on the reverse, you can see the devices mirrored and the indication of a transfer of the rim to your coin. If it were a double strike coin, the devices would not be mirrored and the rim would not be on the victim coin.




















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