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1885 Seated Liberty Quarter Possible Proof

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 Posted 06/23/2021  04:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bchill27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here is my final coin post forthe n8ght. It is another seated, but a quarter, and I believe this is a proof quarter. Any thoughts on grade?



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 Posted 06/23/2021  06:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smat45 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am by no means an expert of this series...but on first blush...does seem to have a PR like apperance.
I'm just a little concerned with the surface around star #4...? There are also some virtical lines in the lower left field that give the apperance on either die polishing or cleaning...?
I was referencing the PCGS site for this year in PR and all have some kind of toning. The absence of toning from your coin leads me to believe that it may have been cleaned...?
Hopfully the experts will be by shortly and give an opinion.
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 Posted 06/23/2021  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any mirrors? Either way a tough coin. Flash is obscuring surface coloring and details.
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 Posted 06/23/2021  09:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not great with this series, but looks like a proof to me. I'll say PR63/64, tough to judge fields though with these pics.
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 Posted 06/23/2021  09:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm just a little concerned with the surface around star #4


first the coin does look proof but this series is not in my wheelhouse. I also have the same concern about the area around star 4. unless there was some type of minor corrosion on the die those spots should not raised. possible counterfeit?
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 Posted 06/23/2021  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great photos, and great coin! It looks like a proof strike to me based on the sharpness of the stars and devices. Some die polishing lines on the obverse, no signs of cleaning, but the tiny spot of corrosion near star 4 is concerning. If it avoids a details grade, I could see this as PR65.
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 Posted 06/23/2021  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bchill27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had tbe same questions about star #4. All I can say is the coin is for sure silver, it weighs the correct amount, and measures correctly. If it is a fake, it is the best I have ever seen... in my brief time as a coin hobbyist. I was afraid to touch the surface to see if they are raised or not. All of the coins I posted are en route to PCGS, and all will have the TruView pics taken. Thank you all for your comments. I very much appreciate them!
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 Posted 06/23/2021  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does not look like a fake. And I do agree it looks proof. Maybe pr64.
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 Posted 06/23/2021  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bchill27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Jbuck!
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 Posted 06/23/2021  9:03 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great coin to kick off with in the grading forum! A tough call Proof or business strike and grade?

According to my Briggs "Liberty Seated quarters" book 1885 is found well struck and business and proof strikes are often mixed up by even dealers. The date is a match for the Proof die characteristics IMO though I don't have the coin in hand or others beyond photographs to compare too. The vertical lines on the shield on the reverse should be lightly recut, the stars on the obverse proofs are well struck on the left and weaker struck on the right, with poor defined central areas on the right, well defined centers on the left side. The denticles look more proof like to me, longer and very well defined, the rims are pretty large and squared off IMO.

I'd go with proof and as to a grade I'm at PR64 though it does look like it may have been dipped a long time ago, it's not bad, but may put it in a details holder on a bad day at the grading company. I am seeing the some areas that look like little carbon spots or flyspecks that have been almost washed off, that is a good sign of an old dip, they are starting to come back in again this time with a little ring around them. Also how some of the more protected areas in the crevices are still glowing more than other areas if the fields is also a sign of a possible old dip into a tarnish remover.

It's a coin worth sending in to a TPG just to see what they say, please let us know if you decide to submit it what it comes back as, a really cool teaching coin, thanks for sharing!

Opps just saw you are sending it off, really looking forward to hearing what they have to say and to see Phil's TrueView photos!
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 Posted 06/23/2021  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ploopy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a proof to me too, I would agree with PR64
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 Posted 07/15/2021  02:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bchill27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The PCGS grade is pr62.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  08:55 am  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the update! Glad it came back as a proof, just wish it was a bit higher grade for you.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sure looks better than that in your pics!
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 Posted 07/15/2021  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add panzaldi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
good news its genuine. I would have put it in the PF63 bucket. since the grade assigned does not reflect wear on the coin they must have dinged it for eye appeal/flat surfaces
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