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Is It Possible To Reveal The MM On This 1901 Barber?

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 Posted 07/15/2021  4:00 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I got this from a metals lot for $2 so no loss is possible.
I am wondering if it is possible to use nic a date or something like that on the mint mark. I want to know is it is an s even though the odds are stacked against me. I see something a little raised in the mm area even though I think it is an O.
Thanks for helping!




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 Posted 07/15/2021  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Check westcoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Generally it's next to impossible to reveal things on a worn silver coin, easier on Nickel using vinegar or similar light acid. I don't think there is any way on this coin, to be honest.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would agree. This coin is essentially a cull.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it was Obverse 1, I could tell you it's 1901-O because O has the only obverse transition variety, everything else in 1901 was Obverse 2. But yours is Obverse 2, so that's as far as I can go. A useless tidbit I guess.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  7:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not useless at all. I soaked it in acetone then went over the mm area with a Sharpie and there IS very small raised area there. Nothing to get my hopes up about. I have tried and tried again to capture it in a image but nothing. The mark I thought was an o but with this knowledge...
It is to early to get my hopes up. I am wondering if I send it in at one of those show deals that were discussed in a thread in the grading section like the 10 coins for $110. If they would have it looked at with forsenic analysis for a reasonable price it might be worth sending in at one of those deals.
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 Posted 07/15/2021  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably what I said wasn't clear. The vast majority of 1901-O were Obverse 2, and so is yours. All of 1901-P and 1901-S were also Obverse 2. If your coin had been Obverse 1, it could be positively identified as 1901-O, but it isn't. So you're left with about a 1 in 50 chance that it was originally 1901-S but I don't think you'll ever know for sure.
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 Posted 07/16/2021  12:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I used silver test solution to show a date on a Seated Liberty dollar



You can see the ghost of the final 4. Prior to doing this I assumed it was an 1843 which is a more common date.
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I stand corrected then looks like a weak acid might just work, if it reveals an S then even in low grade and with the details it would still be worth some money, at least a good amount more than it's worth now.
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 Posted 07/16/2021  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like what sort of weak acid? Vinegar?
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Silver test solution is strong acid. It's a quick test used on melt grade silver, but on coins as far gone as that dollar or your dime, it doesn't matter.Since it doesn't attack gold, I've used it to remove solder from low grade gold coins. It doesn't increase their value but it makes them less ugly. It turned an ugly jewelry grade gold 1/2 escudo into a polished pocket coin. It's cheap and a couple drops goes a long way. Be careful with it.

IMO it ghosted the 4 on the dollar because of the slight density difference between the numeral and the surrounding field. The numeral is slightly lower in density and etches more easily than the field. If I repolished the coin (which was bright and shiny before the treatment) the effect would go away.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/184946767198?tmp=no4
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 Posted 07/16/2021  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. I will try that.
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 Posted 07/28/2021  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The stuff came in the mail. Could you please tell me how to use it?
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 Posted 07/28/2021  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do it in a bathroom sink. I put the coin in a clean glass ashtray and put a drop of the test solution on the spot of interest. It reacts fast on silver, so start with 10-15 seconds at first. You stop it by turning the faucet on cold at low flow and flushing the acid down the drain. Don't splash the acid on yourself.

If you don't see anything, repeat. If you wet the whole coin you'll get an even grey color. You'll get the hang of it with practice. I've used it to get silver solder off gold, which takes multiple soaks for extended time. Gold is unreactive.
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 Posted 07/28/2021  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Oldfordman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You think I will need to practice on another scrap coin or will it not damage the coin in question to bad if I mess up?
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 Posted 07/29/2021  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on my experience it won't destroy your Barber dime. It will fizz a little and turn it grey. Try it on any junk silver and you'll see what it does.
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Alright.
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