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1895-O Morgan Grade Guess. Last One My Set Of Morgan's Is Complete !

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 Posted 08/21/2021  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismatic student to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for sharing. That looks like a beautiful set and presentation.
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 Posted 08/21/2021  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats again on completing the set! Keep us posted on the results. I was a bit on the fence between XF45 and AU. I'm sticking with XF, but won't be surprised with it coming back AU. There's certainly worse examples that have pulled AU.
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 Posted 08/21/2021  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fortcollins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A few posts upthread, I posted the obverse of a PCGS Photograde comparison coin. This is the reverse of that same Photograde coin for grading comparison.

1895-O-Morgan-Grade-Guess.-Last-One-My-Set-Of-Morgan's-Is-Complete-!

Compare both coins. Which is better?

IMHO, @farrider11's obverse is clearly a higher grade than the PCGS obverse. The wheat grains, top cotton leaf, cotton blossoms, and two lower cotton leaves are much sharper and have significantly less wear. The cap fold is at least comparable. The eyelid, lips, hair above the forehead, hair above the ear, and large bear claw are distinctly better.

@farrider11's reverse has sharper detail on the head, neck, wing tips, laurel wreath, olive leaves, and bow than the PCGS grading comparison coin. The talons, legs, inner feathers, and breast are comparable.

Here's the kicker. The PCGS comparison coin that I posted isn't an EF-45. It's the PCGS AU-50.
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08/21/2021 5:46 pm
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 Posted 08/21/2021  5:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If they didnt take the time to put in the holder correctly, aspecially with the media blitz they did for RFID, I got to think they didnt look the coin over too well either, who knows, see what happens.

I really apreciaye all the comments and thoughts.

fortcollins went above and beyond. thanks !!!!!
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 Posted 08/21/2021  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ty2020b to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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If they didnt take the time to put in the holder correctly, aspecially with the media blitz they did for RFID, I got to think they didnt look the coin over too well either, who knows, see what happens.


IMO this is just from shifting in the slab in transit. They're certainly far from saints, but I doubt PCGS would let this out the door this way. Also look at the position of the coin in the holder in your first pics, and then again in the in hand pics. Looks like it shifted even further from the seller to you. Not trying to be being pedantic..
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 Posted 08/21/2021  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin shouldnt shift at all, bad plastic mold LOL, But I understand your point.
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 Posted 08/21/2021  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NumisEd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Great set! Love the 1881-S MS65 PL.
If I ever would do a Morgan dollar Type Set, I would want every coin to be proof like.
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 Posted 08/21/2021  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well to wrap this up, I have been staring at this coin on and off all day. I took a magnifying glass to it, and I think it makes AU50, going back to PCGS Monday morning. At the very least they can fix the slab.
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 Posted 08/27/2021  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 08/27/2021  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm hoping it does...
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 Posted 08/28/2021  02:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I included this with the submission

Hello,
This is a freshly slabbed coin with RFID, Gold Shield and True View.
The slab must be defective as the coin is rolling around in there like a Ferris wheel.

I am also asking for a reconsider on the grade from XF-45 to AU-50.


According to your photo grade pictures, it would also appear to merit AU-50.

My general thought is that if it was slabbed poorly, maybe it was graded poorly.

If you do not agree, At the very least, I ask you repair the slab.

V/r



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 Posted 08/28/2021  07:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm hoping that was for a forum chuckle....
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 Posted 08/28/2021  07:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TobyJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it is the same grade, they should really reslab it for free because of the slippery internal gripper. Good luck with getting an AU50 !
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 Posted 08/28/2021  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm hoping that was for a forum chuckle....


It was, but If I'm paying for it, I sent it in with the package, at least they can read it for what I'm getting charged

They recently had a change in managment, as evidenced by them putting it in the system a week earlier then they usualy do for a standard submission
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 Posted 08/28/2021  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add farrider11 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
We had a few folks that said it was fairly graded, and a Bunch that said it should be an AU 50. I took a shot, maybe they will fix the slab in any case.

I think it will upgrade, but wont be dissapointed if it doesn't.Its on the border line.
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08/28/2021 8:18 pm
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