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"We" The People In God We Trust? (1974 S Cent)

 
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 Posted 09/11/2021  10:11 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Pennybyj to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I m not sure what this is please give mee insight thank you


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 Posted 09/11/2021  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two things. Die wear and machine push doubling.
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 Posted 09/11/2021  10:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, die wear.
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 Posted 09/11/2021  11:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pennybyj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you ok much what is push doubling and why does the inscription "E" look like it's rounding
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 Posted 09/11/2021  12:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pennybyj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the the MM I see The Tail of the "S" but not sure
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Same coin with die wear and machine push doubling
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 Posted 09/11/2021  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is more images of the motto with Machine Doubling and die wear

Note the Machine Doubling with the 10:00-11:00 areas.
Another set of Machine Doubling on the devices that are stronger. Note how the MD pushes aside the devices, removing the contour on that side of the device.
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Note how the tops of the devices were reduced. When you look at the full devices, you can see where these devices have been reduced in size. The tops of the devices altered.
Here are some examples of push doubling. The Machine Doubling now larger than the normal size of the devices.


Note how the devices remind you of moving like peanut butter. A bounce caused this to happen very quickly because of the swing.
Thus note on your devices the swing arc of the MD pushing the devices in a non normal direction:

The other types of MD we call classic Machine Doubling. Anything the machine alters is called machine doubling/push/ejection doubling.


Whether it is hit by the dies, or during ejection of the dies, it was caused by the machine, and falls under term "Machine doubling." I just add the other term to differ the different types.

CoopHome: Are there different types of Machine Doubling?
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Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 09/11/2021  5:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Die wear and circulation damage. No premium, sorry.

Full photos of the entire coin would have been useful (both sides).
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 Posted 09/11/2021  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pennybyj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much I learned the peanut method and the MD method all good I will post more of the same to see if it's the right method thanks again
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