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Crazy Lamination Error On Wheat Penny. (1941)

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 Posted 10/23/2021  12:29 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add HonestScript to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
My brother found this coin and was wondering if it was lamination error. I think so, also he wanted to ask about the value of it. Any input in much appreciated. Thanks





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 Posted 10/23/2021  02:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHI to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, that is a lamination error and a very nice one I'd say. It has a unique geometric folded 3-D look to it.

You should include reverse photos as well when posting. It helps with determining errors.

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 Posted 10/23/2021  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
. Very nice find,2x2 worthy.Check eBay sold values for a similar one to get an idea on current value.
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 Posted 10/23/2021  06:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mrwhatisit to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As others have said, and , that is a legit error lf the lamination type.
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 Posted 10/23/2021  06:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just excellent!
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 Posted 10/23/2021  07:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice one.
One thing about laminations, there are never two the same.
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 Posted 10/23/2021  09:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool for sure.



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 Posted 10/23/2021  10:15 am  Show Profile   Check sheldius's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool, but I'm not sure its a lamination. Looks more like a struck through very thin foil to me. The bent part of the angle which goes through Liberty is both above and below the longer part in terms of depth into coin.
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 Posted 10/23/2021  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It can't be a struck through as all areas are showing the ghost image. But it was a thin a paper. The weight probably wouldn't be off much. But check it anyway. (While it looks like lamination is longer than the width of the coin, it was probably a piece cold rolled onto the stock sheet. and was rolled onto the sheet during the thickness process. Being cold rolled would not allow it to be firmly attached to the hold roll metal. Thus after, the cutting of the , the adding of the Proto rim,

it was loosen a bit, then struck and later fell off the coin.

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 Posted 10/23/2021  10:37 am  Show Profile   Check sheldius's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sheldius to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Congrats on 54K Coop. Misunderstanding on my part in terms. I always thought laminations were when part of the original planchet comes off. And anything that was foreign, like a bit of thin scrap embedded into the coin and falling out later was a struck through. But we are thinking of the same type of thing. It's not an problem with the original planchet annealing or metal composition coming apart and flaking off.
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 Posted 10/23/2021  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter4 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very cool find!
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 Posted 10/23/2021  11:55 am  Show Profile   Check BadThad's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Reverse picture?

100% a delamination and a VERY cool one! CONGRATS!
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 Posted 10/23/2021  7:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Any chance the Op can give us the weight?


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... It can't be a struck through as all areas are showing the ghost image...


Why can't a ghost image show up on a struck-through if the metal is thin enough?

Most easily identified struck-throughs are in the field but why can't a piece of copper "foil" be struck through, then come off and show a ghost image if it fell in a design feature?

I'm not seeing very strong lines in the bottom of the void that are usually an indicator of a lamination. The light lines I am seeing could be explained by a struck-through of a lamination from another coin.

Wouldn't a delamination of this size affect the weight?
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 Posted 10/23/2021  8:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could, but there would be not ghost under there. If the strike through were thick, then you would see that outline. Depending on how firm the shape is.

Thin piece of die prevented the strike of the motto as it bridged over those areas and prevented the form. (Just noticed aft I posted this, that the devices were on the opposite side of the die piece)


On this moving struck through it prevent the strike, but as a bullrider, it stayed on the coin past the buzzer. But still prevent the devices from being formed with the added incuse marks.

Rim bur struck through.

Thick rim bur.

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