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Numismatist But Not Notaphilist!

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 Posted 01/11/2022  10:43 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add OzLeigh to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I am an avid collector of coins who has absolutely no interest in collecting banknotes.

Am I the only one?

If a collector of banknotes is a notaphilist and notaphily is a sub-branch of numismatics, what is a person who only collects coins called?

"coin collector"?
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 Posted 01/11/2022  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Check jacrispies's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes you are the only one...

Just kidding, there are probably others out there that don't like paper money, but my guess is that they are far and few between. I can't speak for that party, because I have a small banknote collection to compliment my primary collection of coins.

Some people became coin collectors through precious metal stacking, and through that mindset, possibly developed detestable feelings to paper money.

Very interesting question, I want to hear what others think.
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 Posted 01/12/2022  06:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Almost all coin dealers stock banknotes as well, even if it is only as a sideline.

It is from this situation that some coin collectors are first introduced to banknote collecting. That was my experience.
Beside a few banknotes, I also have a few medals, tokens, major error coins, a 'dark' collection of fake coins, and 6x1 ounce Pt bullion coins as well, for the same reason, (but the Pt bullion came from a bullion dealer).
I feel compelled to say I have a reasonable numismatic reference library, that should really be considered to be part of the collection.

Together, the exonummia represents perhaps 10%-15% of my collection.

I will let others decide if I should be seen as a 'coin collector', or a 'numistmatist'.

I have other collecting hobby interests as well.
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 Posted 01/12/2022  07:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Respectfully...I'm not concerned over what classification(s) I fall into when it comes to hobbies and similar interests. I just have fun scratching the 'collector' itch.
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 Posted 01/12/2022  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Grinya to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't collect banknotes. I have a small amount of them, but do not have any interest to expand the collection and do something else with them. Just let an album to be covered by dust....

i also stopped to collect some types of coins and thinking about further narrowing of the collection area. E.g. I stopped to buy modern coins for collection at all and expand this part only by swapping
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 Posted 01/12/2022  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sharkman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have never been interested in commercial notes, although I would like to have a genuine specimen of a Confederate note for historical value.
There are too many coins out there. I will never get all I want.
I can tilt a coin to just the right angle for the light and get a display of the beautiful colors, particularly with a toned coin.
Coins are dated since the 1700s, and that puts each one into a time in history. I don't know about whether notes are dated.
I have seen some beautiful notes, and can understand why people like them. Just not for me.
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 Posted 01/12/2022  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
These descriptive terms are inclusive, rather than exclusive - a "numismatist", for example, is someone with an interest in coins, and "coin-related objects", related either by use as money (tokens, banknotes, primitive money, etc) or by similarity in physical appearance (eg medals, seals) or by method of manufacture (eg. badges). Things that are "numismatic" but not actual coins or banknotes are often classified as "exonumia" (a term used here on the forum to describe things that aren't coins or banknotes).

Just like there is no one-word term to describe someone who only collects quarters, to the exclusion of all other coins, there is no single-word term for someone who collects coins, and only coins to the exclusion of all other numismatic objects. Using a phrase like "pure coin collector" sounds a bit elitist. Using just the phrase "coin collector" would be adequate when talking to the general public, as most folks don't even consider exonumia to be genuine collectables (I have seen non-numismatic folks joke about Chuck-E-Cheese tokens, as if everybody knows they are worthless objects unworthy of being collectable). To other collectors, you might need to qualify that by saying "just coins" or "only coins, not the other stuff".
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 Posted 01/12/2022  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can get notes from before the US was a country




When the US operated under the Continental Congress




Before the Federal government issued paper currency




To US large notes










To fractional currency








To the myriad forms of small currency








But not everyone needs to collect paper

And yes all notes either have a date or series.

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 Posted 01/12/2022  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OzLeigh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's some collection of notes you've got there hfjacinto, but to me notes are just good for changing into coins.
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 Posted 01/13/2022  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am not a note collector, but I really enjoying reading about them. There are many fantastic topics with great photos presented here on CCF. I find them very satisfying.
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 Posted 01/13/2022  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And to think there are people out there who don't care about either coins or paper money! Imagine!
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 Posted 01/13/2022  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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And to think there are people out there who don't care about either coins or paper money! Imagine!
Probably billions of them.
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 Posted 01/13/2022  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Numismatics is the study of money and money substitutes. Notaphily, and exonumia are merely subcategories of the overall encompassing term "Numismatics" (Personally I would include Philately as a subcategory of Numismatics as well, as stamps are actually a money substitute as well.)

So depending on you level of study, you are still a numismatist. You merely restrict your study to one category.
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 Posted 01/13/2022  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Personally I would include Philately as a subcategory of Numismatics as well, as stamps are actually a money substitute as well.
This was something I was waiting to ask, but I knew someone would eventually give their opinion. I happen to agree with it.
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 Posted 01/13/2022  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sharkman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I just had a circular experience. I wondered where the word numismatics came from in the first place. "Matics" is easy. But "numis" isn't. "Numbers" suggested itself, or maybe the numeration of money as we all count ours. (Or not).
Wikipedia says "A numismatist is a specialist in numismatics, 'of coins'; from Late Latin numismatis, genative of numisma."
Wiki had nothing on numisma,
Dictionary.com doesn't have an entry for numisma, but it defines "numis" as an abbreviation for numismatics.
So, there you have it officially (or not).
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 Posted 01/14/2022  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Numisma is Latin for coin, medal, piece of money. So numismatis is "the coins." That is all I got.
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