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Numismatist But Not Notaphilist!

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 Posted 01/12/2022  5:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list
These descriptive terms are inclusive, rather than exclusive - a "numismatist", for example, is someone with an interest in coins, and "coin-related objects", related either by use as money (tokens, banknotes, primitive money, etc) or by similarity in physical appearance (eg medals, seals) or by method of manufacture (eg. badges). Things that are "numismatic" but not actual coins or banknotes are often classified as "exonumia" (a term used here on the forum to describe things that aren't coins or banknotes).

Just like there is no one-word term to describe someone who only collects quarters, to the exclusion of all other coins, there is no single-word term for someone who collects coins, and only coins to the exclusion of all other numismatic objects. Using a phrase like "pure coin collector" sounds a bit elitist. Using just the phrase "coin collector" would be adequate when talking to the general public, as most folks don't even consider exonumia to be genuine collectables (I have seen non-numismatic folks joke about Chuck-E-Cheese tokens, as if everybody knows they are worthless objects unworthy of being collectable). To other collectors, you might need to qualify that by saying "just coins" or "only coins, not the other stuff".
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 Posted 01/12/2022  5:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hfjacinto to your friends list
You can get notes from before the US was a country

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When the US operated under the Continental Congress

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Before the Federal government issued paper currency

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To US large notes

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To fractional currency

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To the myriad forms of small currency

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But not everyone needs to collect paper

And yes all notes either have a date or series.

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01/12/2022 5:59 pm
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 Posted 01/12/2022  11:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OzLeigh to your friends list
That's some collection of notes you've got there hfjacinto, but to me notes are just good for changing into coins.
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01/12/2022 11:41 pm
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 Posted 01/13/2022  08:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I am not a note collector, but I really enjoying reading about them. There are many fantastic topics with great photos presented here on CCF. I find them very satisfying.
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 Posted 01/13/2022  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list
And to think there are people out there who don't care about either coins or paper money! Imagine!
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 Posted 01/13/2022  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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And to think there are people out there who don't care about either coins or paper money! Imagine!
Probably billions of them.
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 Posted 01/13/2022  1:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
Numismatics is the study of money and money substitutes. Notaphily, and exonumia are merely subcategories of the overall encompassing term "Numismatics" (Personally I would include Philately as a subcategory of Numismatics as well, as stamps are actually a money substitute as well.)

So depending on you level of study, you are still a numismatist. You merely restrict your study to one category.
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 Posted 01/13/2022  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Personally I would include Philately as a subcategory of Numismatics as well, as stamps are actually a money substitute as well.
This was something I was waiting to ask, but I knew someone would eventually give their opinion. I happen to agree with it.
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 Posted 01/13/2022  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sharkman to your friends list
Well, I just had a circular experience. I wondered where the word numismatics came from in the first place. "Matics" is easy. But "numis" isn't. "Numbers" suggested itself, or maybe the numeration of money as we all count ours. (Or not).
Wikipedia says "A numismatist is a specialist in numismatics, 'of coins'; from Late Latin numismatis, genative of numisma."
Wiki had nothing on numisma,
Dictionary.com doesn't have an entry for numisma, but it defines "numis" as an abbreviation for numismatics.
So, there you have it officially (or not).
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 Posted 01/14/2022  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
Numisma is Latin for coin, medal, piece of money. So numismatis is "the coins." That is all I got.
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.. what is a person who only collects coins called?


Me.
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 Posted 01/15/2022  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list
OzLeigh, I'm with you.
I sold all my banknotes to buy more coins.

I have no interest in banknotes, token or any other exomunia.
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 Posted 01/15/2022  8:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hokiefan_82 to your friends list
I was collector of U.S. coins for over 50 years before I bought my first U.S. banknote in 2019. I initially thought I'd just pick up a few interesting large size notes as a little sidetrack to my primary collecting goals. However, it wasn't too long after I started that I became hooked, and the majority of my purchases are now U.S. banknotes (both large and small) and Confederate banknotes.

I've had diversions before that didn't last - for instance I had built a decent collection of British and Dutch gold coins but eventually lost interest and ended up selling them all a few years ago. Maybe that will happen with my currency collection, as well - who knows! However, I know I'll enjoy it while it lasts!
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01/16/2022 01:31 am
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 Posted 01/15/2022  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list
I have a few but am mostly into coins.
Coins is arguably an easier proposition for me - I like my British Commonwealth stuff but early British Commonwealth coins seem to be cheaper and easier to obtain than similar banknotes.
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 Posted 01/16/2022  05:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Slerk to your friends list
I think every coin collector has a small collection of banknotes/medals/tokens. Now I'm selling my collection of banknotes, but I don't think I'll give it up completely. I have saved a few banknotes and I think in the future I will buy more that I find interesting.


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(Personally I would include Philately as a subcategory of Numismatics as well, as stamps are actually a money substitute as well.)


and then I immediately remember the money-stamps of Russia 1915-17
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