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 Posted 01/25/2022  06:58 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Anzelmas to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi,m8s!

This coin is 101% fake. I want to know what is original coin? Or is it fantasy coin?

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Diameter 21 mm
weight 3.06 g



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 Posted 01/25/2022  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oriole to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It does not resemble anything I have seen. I am voting for fantasy.
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 Posted 01/25/2022  07:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ironhorse to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see elements of Spanish pistareen and two reales
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces53665.html
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 Posted 01/25/2022  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, it's a very crude copy of a Spanish colonial silver 8 reales, or "Pirate piece of eight".
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 Posted 01/25/2022  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Anzelmas to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think I found the original.
It is Spain Philip IV 8 Reales 1651 Ségovie.

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 Posted 01/25/2022  11:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Yes, it's a very crude copy of a Spanish colonial silver 8 reales, or "Pirate piece of eight".


There were many many subtypes of those 8 reales coins (and many more of the lower denominations) with essentially the same design. I don't think quite enough is legible to tell which particular subtype was copied, though it probably wasn't the 1651 Segovia coin.

That said, I can try to make a guess. The arms are of Charles II: the central bit is down but the Portugal bit is missing. A lot of types of Charles II had different designs, and most of the Mexican ones apparently tend to be a lot more illegible than that. Looking at the types on Numista, this one seems to be the best match.
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