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1969 S Machine Doubling Or Double Die?

 
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 Posted 05/19/2022  09:51 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tbbranson to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi everybody I'm new to this . After seeing that the 1969s is rare I found this coin. It looks like it's doubled but doesn't stand out like the ones that have high value . To me its doubled but very close unlike all the high valued ones with widespread doubling . Please let me know if I should send it in or not thanks !!






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 Posted 05/19/2022  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Spence to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@tbb, any chance of you posting a close-up pic of the area that appears doubled to you? Thx.
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 Posted 05/19/2022  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, please show us close-ups of the areas you believe show doubling.



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 Posted 05/19/2022  11:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it were that doubled die, we would see it on the images you already provided. It would look like this:

Your coin is not from that die. The 1968-1972 cents had a lot of Machine Doubling on them. That is what you are seeing on your coin. Machine Doubling is created on the coin post strike by looseness of the machine. It alters the fresh struck coin. This is seen on the outer/inner outlines on the devices. This is what creates a machine doubled coin. This Machine Doubling can happen to a normal or doubled die. But the Machine Doubling never makes a coin a doubled die. It is the doubled die, that creates the doubled die coin. So you can have a machine doubled, doubled die coin, but Machine Doubling never creates a doubled die. The doubling is on the die. Thus the term: "Doubled die."

CoopHome: I have doubling on my 1969-S Cent, why is it not a doubled die? Term "Doubled Die."
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 Posted 05/20/2022  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tbbranson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey maybe I'm just trying to convince myself . But I honestly think it looks like that picture . The spread just isn't as good and the wear on the coin took a beating . But I find if I look at the coin a certain way . I look up the back line of the head , under liberty I can see the doubling really good . I can see that liberty is lifted above the normal font. Most noticeable on the last 2 letters TY I can see the separation of the 2 raised . . I'm no expert but still Lookin down that line . In GOD WE TRUST looks pretty doubled as well .what y'all think Or I'm I just crazy
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 Posted 05/20/2022  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
First to the CCF. Second with the 69s dd it's soo dramatic you can see it with the naked eye. The chances that you find one 50 years later is astronomical. I think one was found a few years ago. There are 2 more minor DD from 69. We would need better close up pictures to confirm.
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 Posted 05/21/2022  02:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tbbranson to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah I need to invest in a mircroscope
The pictures don't give it justice off my phone
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