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1943 D - 6 Pence Australia Smaller/Less Weight

 
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 Posted 06/20/2022  10:43 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add NirvanaR to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Wanted thoughts if left coin is possibly an error coin:

left weight: 2.29 g
right weight: 2.83 g


is there any way to confirm this is an error? maybe wrong planchet?

anything to check specifically?
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 Posted 06/20/2022  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Could you also show the other side ( which should be done with any listing) and a shot of the edge.
It looks like the rims may have been removed which accounts for the smaller size and weight.
Hopefully the additional pictures could confirm this.
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 Posted 06/20/2022  12:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NirvanaR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
sorry regarding the other side of the coin, here is the front:




Edge images:



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 Posted 06/20/2022  12:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the additional pictures.
It still looks like the rim has been removed.
If it was a wrong size planchet, it would not be round. The
pressure from the press would distort it as the retaining collar
would not be in contact with the rim.
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 Posted 06/20/2022  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What you've got here is a classic case of "clipping", the mediaeval practice where small shavings were snipped or filed off the edge of a silver coin and the coin put back into circulation for full face value; the clipper now has a little pile of silver shavings they can sell for a profit. In this case, 0.5 grams worth of silver.

Clipping is, of course, illegal, and always has been. Ever since the invention of coinage presses that did away with the old-fashioned big-guy-with-a-hammer method of coinage production, the vast majority of silver coins have been given reeded edges, specifically to prevent clipping from happening in the theory that it would be too difficult or time-consuming for a clipper to convincingly fake the reeding. Threepences, for whatever reason, don't have milled edges, so they don't have this anti-clipping protection. It was presumably reasoned by the people who designed threepences that the amount of silver obtained by clipping a tiny coin like a threepence is so small, that it simply wouldn't be worth most people's time. The fact that more clipped threepences are not encountered is perhaps testament to the truth of this theory.
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 Posted 06/21/2022  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NirvanaR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The comparison coin does have a reeded edge, so it is most likely that someone shaved .5 grams off the actual minted coin.

Thanks to everyone for checking this out and providing explanation.
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