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1953-D Lincoln Need Help For Grading And Possibility Error

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 Posted 07/06/2022  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I try to reconstruct this, my curiousity make me try to reconstruct this.

Before, Mr. Dearborn ask me why I compare with 1968 Lincoln. And he was right. So I reconstruct this with 1963 Lincoln.

And let the image speak for it self.









i make overlay between 1953 Lincoln and 1963 Lincoln.
The reverse show the building pattern.

But i'll wait for you all to judge and examine the image above.

Thank you.
Solo
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 Posted 07/06/2022  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agree with you Dearborn. it's shows doubled on lips. But the question is, why and how it's happened?
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 Posted 07/06/2022  10:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Note the strike looks weak on that one area. If it were die doubling, other parts of the strike would be affected the same. They are not affected. So it is just a Wheat cent. Note on your overlay area, where the motto differences are seen? They are not altered like that on your coin. So it is just a normal coin from what I can see. Not worth sending in for a slab as the coin is not showing anything like hub doubling. The fees for this service would out weigh any premium for this coin.
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 Posted 07/06/2022  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DaRukus660 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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 Posted 07/07/2022  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok Mr. Coop.

Thank you for your explaination. This mean we just ignore the mark on the lips, the mark under the 3, which is 'look like' 6 and the mark behind the Lincoln shoulder? Yes the doubling is too weak, of course if it's were die doubling.

However, thank you all for guide and teach me and being patience.
I go with you Mr. Coop, for not send it to grading service.

Case closed.

i'll start new topic next time.

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 Posted 07/07/2022  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CentSation to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"I'm sorry, there's a lot of error in my grammar"

LOL, I was thinking the opposite.

You do better than most here [US] that have only been speaking the one language [English] their whole lives. I am impressed.

English is a difficult language. Your punctuation looks good and you know when to correctly use the word "too".
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 Posted 07/08/2022  5:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
On only one doubled die I can think of has doubled lips on Abe:

But along with the hub doubling on the lips, the rest of the coin is showing very strong hub doubling of the other devices:

If your coin was a doubled die, then [i]all the other devices would also be affected[/]. They are not affected to that same extent.
Richard S. Cooper
Some have asked about my images I use and I'm glad to say, you can now you can see the DVD in sections on youtube:
1. Intro, older coins, toned coins 2. Doubled dies 3. Die events, One of a kind errors 4. So called errors, Coin information 5. Coin information Types and Varieties, Overlays
Jefferson nickel doubled dies Wexler/Rebar complete listings

trail dies:http://www.traildies.com/
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 Posted 07/09/2022  5:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cujohn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see it too. But can't explain it. Maybe some kind of stain?
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 Posted 07/09/2022  11:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 11997755 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to me like PMD. Looks like it took a hit, the tip of the nose is kind of flattened as well.
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 Posted 07/10/2022  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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But along with the hub doubling on the lips, the rest of the coin is showing very strong hub doubling of the other devices:


I got it Mr. Coop, thank you again. Although I am sure it was doubled, but I know mine is too weak for doubled. As the image I've posted before. The 'trust' slightly moved to the rim. Based on my overlay picture.
That's why the doubled on this Abe weak. In other words, we can say it nothing or just a bag marks.

Also the mark on the head and tail of '5' that I assume as '9' also the mark under '3' that I assume as '6'.

So, that's what makes me believe it was doubled.

I believe if it was struck over on the obverse, of course it will be affected on the reverse.
Yes, I haven't bring the overlay of the reverse yet. Because I want to make the obverse clear first before we go to the other topic. (reverse).

I know Mr. Coop, your image is very clear showing the doubled. No doubt. We all can see it.

With all my respect and salute to you Mr. Coop for your patience to explain it.

Stay health.

Solo


To be honest, most of my theory to identified coins is by make the overlay on the coins that's indicated 'doubled' or 'struck over' on other coins.

Of course I knew my theory is not enough to identify it. There's a lot of ways to identify it.


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 Posted 07/10/2022  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I see it too. But can't explain it. Maybe some kind of stain?


Maybe yes Mr. Cujohn, or it just a bag mark?
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Looks to me like PMD. Looks like it took a hit, the tip of the nose is kind of flattened as well.


Yes, the tip on the nose look flattened Mr.11997755.
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 Posted 07/10/2022  10:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Solo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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English is a difficult language. Your punctuation looks good and you know when to correctly use the word "too".


Truthfully, yes. Mr. CentSation. English is a difficult language.

I'd love to learn everything, something new, like numismatic, my new hobbies.
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