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1803 Dollar 27.02g ?

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 Posted 07/23/2022  04:53 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add stuwalker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
PLEASE HELP!!!

I just paid $660 on ebay for this 1803 Draped Bust Silver Dollar (Small 3). It appears to be genuine silver, is not magnetic etc, however the weight is 27.02g / 27.03g but should weigh no more than 27g! Is this coin fake? PLEASE HELP!!!!#128556;

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 Posted 07/23/2022  05:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wrekkdd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't know enough about this series to give an accurate comment so I'll let the pros answer, though is does look scarily like this one because of the odd rim issue under the bust.




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 Posted 07/23/2022  06:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stuwalker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Wrekkdd, that is already v helpful, much appreciated
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 Posted 07/23/2022  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can you show us a large image of the obverse, like you have the reverse?



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at first glance I thought it was fake, and with as much wear as it has it should Not be overweight. Also the reverse appears "grainy" & all around has the fake dark rim toning.
But a nice large photo of the front of the coin would be helpful.
I would return it if possible.
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 Posted 07/23/2022  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jacrispies to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Counterfeit coin. The date numerals are evenly rounded, which is incorrect. For example, the middle of the 8 should taper to a thin crossbar. This coin has no change, and the 8 is the same thickness all around.

Can you post a picture of the edge?
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If the coin is genuine, it would have to be a B5. The B5 has the raised small 3 in the date. Need a close up photo of the obverse T in liberty, and close up photo of the arrows on the reverse. On the T in liberty the upper right serif is longer than left. There should be 13 arrows and one without a stem.
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 Posted 07/23/2022  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter27 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately this is a counterfeit. I would get this returned ASAP. Best of luck!

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Hello all, Thank you to all the experts for your keen advice. I have uploaded the obverse as requested. It appears the consensus so far is the coin is fake, which would explain the overweight. I am shocked as the seller put "Genuine —NOT A COPY" in the item title. I will have to apply for a refund. Luckily I videoed myself opening the package and weighing the coin straight away - advise I give to you all in return. Thank you
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Here is a comparison of the date as only one obverse used for the raised 3. Get your money back on the fake as the date is off.

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I am shocked as the seller put "Genuine —NOT A COPY" in the item title.

Yeah what happened to truth in advertising?!
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 Posted 07/26/2022  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Obvious fake.
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