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Do You Recommend I Separate My Canadian And US Coins For Grading

 
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 Posted 07/24/2022  10:22 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add recollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
since there are canada specific and usa specific grading companies, is it better if I send my canadian coins to a canadian grading company and US coins to a us company?



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 Posted 07/24/2022  10:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JimmyD to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Canadian and US graders will grade both Canadian and US coins.
If you are sending them to the US, make sure you use one of the top
graders and not one of the numerous basement slabbers.
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 Posted 07/24/2022  11:36 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Send your Canadian Coins to ICCS or CCCS if you wish proper
Canadian Standards .
Send your US coins to NGC , PCGS or ANACS .
The US services get very pricey , very quickly when sent from Canada . Can quickly get to $50 CAD or more all in
per coin !
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 Posted 07/24/2022  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also make sure if you have never done this before to do the math first to see if the coins you are getting slabbed are worth the cost or if you will end up losing money (many people do). Posting some to our forum will allow you to get an idea of the grade and if they are worth sending in.

Now if you are just slabbing them b/c that's how you like to collect, then the above is a moot point.

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 Posted 07/24/2022  12:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most buyers & collectors from Canada like to use ICCS, unless they want to use PCGS in order to enter their "competitions". PCGS is quite pricey, though. You should make sure that you can actually "sell" your coin for at least $200 is you are cross-bordering. Canadian Customs gets their fingers in the pie if you are sending to the US.
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 Posted 08/12/2022  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheColorofMoney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
recollector, in my personal experience:

Accuracy on surfaces (marks, cleaning):
1. ICCS
2. PCGS
3. NGC

NOTE: Experienced Canadian collectors\dealers whom I respect state that PCGS is slightly more conservative on surface marks than ICCS and would put PCGS in the #1 slot above.

Accuracy on color (artificial\questionable toning):
1. PCGS
2. ICCS
3. NGC

Which TPG have I seen "over-grade" the most often?
NGC

To sell in the US, PCGS is more liquid. To sell in Canada, ICCS is more liquid.
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Good info TheColorofMoney.
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 Posted 09/23/2022  10:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Beaver22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is suggested to do that because in Canada the more popular grading company may be different than in the US.
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 Posted 09/23/2022  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Check Wade's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ICCS for most Canadian coins being sold in Canada.
PCGS for everything else, NGC a close second but tend to overgrade (at least colonial tokens).
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 Posted 09/23/2022  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wallyb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, grading folks where does CCCS fit in the picture for Canadian coins (if at all in your opinions)?
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 Posted 09/23/2022  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Levaril to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Canadian coin TPG submission opinion:

If you're going to resell in Canada, ICCS isn't a bad choice. The flips aren't great, particularly for the larger coins like dollars, but they do sell up here. Also not a bad choice if you want a straight grade on a lightly cleaned coin as they will mostly ignore that.

PCGS if you want to have your coin in a hard slab and/or you want to eventually sell into the US. Some Canadian collectors prefer PCGS as well. For high value coins for eventual resale I'd definitely much prefer a PCGS slab over an ICCS flip. You need to get a dealer or someone who subs to PCGS to do the submission for you if you only have a small number. It's a complicated process with customs in the middle and you don't want to have issues that cost a lot of money.

I personally wouldn't recommend CCCS, although I know there are some dealers who like them. It's a way to get a slab without crossing the border I guess. I think their grading tends to be not the best though - seems like they typically grade a coin higher than it would grade at ICCS or PCGS. More like how NGC feels compared to PCGS for Canadian coins.

So personally I would never sub a coin to CCCS or NGC. I do sub coins regularly to both ICCS and PCGS selectively.

No opinion on American coins as I have none.
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 Posted 09/23/2022  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unless you can actually SELL a coin for $100 or more, it's not worth the cost to get an opinion on paper and plastic. It's not cheap to cert coins, especially those in the US. Think long and hard about whether you will ever get your money back that you spend for the plastic. Now very high grades or scarcities can be a different matter.
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 Posted 09/23/2022  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Levaril to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ICCS subs, especially in bulk, are cheap enough it can be a little lower than that even and still make sense. PCGS I'd recommend at least $200 in value and I prefer it to be $500+. Too much trouble and cost for a cheap coin for sure.
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