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 Posted 09/19/2022  10:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bigupzjt to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all, first time poster and relatively new to collecting. I have a 1969S Lincoln Penny. It's in pretty amazing condition and may have it graded. I know it's not the double die variety, but I'm wondering if the mint mark is a RPM. Any feedback or responses will be appreciated.


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 Posted 09/19/2022  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pnwmakes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Compare it to the below links, Even blowing up your picture it mushy and can't make anything out.

http://www.varietyvista.com/02b%20L...%201968S.htm

https://www.coppercoins.com
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 Posted 09/19/2022  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nick10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
pics need to be sharper to be sure, but it appears to be Machine Doubling
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 Posted 09/19/2022  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add datadragon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does not appear to be a doubled die or RPM from those pics. Your coin looks like it has Machine Doubling, which is very common on Lincoln Cents of this era. The fact that the mintmark is also doubled is a dead giveaway. On cents before 1990, the mint marks were punched into the die separately after the die was already made. Therefore, a doubled die would not cause any doubling on the mint mark on a pre-1990 cent. On the real DDO its not just the date that is doubled.

Machine Doubling: (Low Value)


Real DDO: (Very High Value) https://www.doubleddie.com/314201.html

1969-S RPM - Note on the RPM there is no doubling on the date or other devices. http://www.varietyvista.com/02b%20L...%201969S.htm Some general info on RPMs: https://www.doubleddie.com/58243.html

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 Posted 09/19/2022  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigupzjt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gotcha...I was thinking the same, but needed experienced eyes to take a look. Thanks for the info...and glad to be here!!
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 Posted 09/20/2022  04:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to CCF. Not an RPM it is MD=machine doubling. Also, not worth sending in even if it was an RPM because of condition and because a coin needs a retail value of at least $100 to justify all costs involved in sending it in.
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 Posted 09/20/2022  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Many of these were submitted to PCGS and got graded as normal coins. They are not doubled dies. You can see this often on the 1968-1972 cents. Just the dreaded Machine Doubling. Even the doubled dies that year showed Machine Doubling on them as well:

Note on the date areas, you can see the date showing a DDO. The mintmark doesn't show die doubling. But note the yellow arrows pointing to the Machine Doubling on this doubled die. Even the minmark is showing Machine Doubling. A doubled die can show Machine Doubling, but a Machine Doubling does not make a doubled die. It is the Die doubling that makes it a doubled die. So when looking for doubled dies, look at the centers of the devices, not at the outside/inside edges of the devices. On those areas you will find Machine Doubling and die wear. The spread is on the center of the devices design:

Note how the devices are enlarged by a doubled die. Machine Doubling never creates a doubled die. Only a doubled die, can strike a doubled die coin.
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 Posted 09/20/2022  8:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add merclover to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Don't send it anywhere you have to pay for grading. Keep searching and learning. As others have said, it's not worth the grading fees involved with this particular cent, sorry.
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