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What year did they stop producing the copper cent?
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Copper? 1857. Only large cents were made of solid copper.

Lincoln cents were French bronze until 1962, then were changed to brass. That lasted until 1982 when both brass and copper plated zinc cents were made. The copper plated zinc are still made today.

French bronze is a 95% copper, 5% tin and zinc alloy.

The brass cents remove the tin and change the 5% to pure zinc.
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Thank You Coppercoins.
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And then of course the French bronze cents they are striking this year for Mint and Proof sets.
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They are?
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From the legislation-

The Secretary of the Treasury shall issue 1-cent coins in 2009 with the exact metallic content as the 1-cent coin contained in 1909 in such number as the Secretary determines to be appropriate for numismatic purposes.


Of course, it is clear as mud as to what coins will actually have the bronze composition. They may limit it to the five coin set(four Lincoln cents plus a Lincoln commem dollar) which would create a true modern rarity of only 50,000 coins or they could be utilized in all of the Proof Sets and even included in the Mint Sets as well. It is a big guessing game right now
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Since the U.S. Mint is the world's largest coin dealer, it'll probably put all kinds of new stuff out to get the unwary to buy it, slab it & sell it to other less astute collectors.
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It is my understanding that the Copper version will be in the 50,000 special sets plus all Mint and Proof sets


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The United States Mint also will issue numismatic versions of the four redesigned pennies with exactly the same metallic content as the 1909 coin (95 percent copper, five percent tin and zinc). These coins will be minted in proof and uncirculated condition, and will be included in the United States Mint's annual product offerings.


This quote came from a Mint press release http://www.usmint.gov/pressroom/ind...lease&ID=992
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When that mint set comes out watch out. I am going after a few jsut for the cent. will give the rest to Dawson. Can't wait.
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So. if my understanding is correct, for 2009 cents we will have P and D mint mark in copper plated zinc, P and D mintmark in French bronze and S mintmark in French bronze, times 4 designs for a total of 20 different cents. Am I understanding correctly? Is there a possibility of P and D French bronze in both satin and regular, or only satin?
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Not quite, I believe what we'll see is ALL of the french bronze coins will be S mint only. Should be a total of 8 coins in bronze, a proof and an unc for each design....all will have the S mint mark.
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So that actually makes 24 coins- P and D zinc in regular and satin, 2 mints x 4 designs x 2 finishes = 16, plus 8 S mints, 4 proof and 4 uncirculated?
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We're going to need a new album just for the 2009 cents.
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This is from the subscription section on the USMint.gov web site


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The 2009 United States Mint Uncirculated Coin Set® includes two envelopes of 18 coins each; one from the United States Mint at Denver and the other from the United States Mint at Philadelphia, for a total of 36 coins. Each envelope contains four Presidential $1 Coins, six quarters from the District of Columbia and United States Territories Quarter Program, as well as four Lincoln cents (with an alloy consisting of 95% copper, 3% zinc and 2% tin that matches the alloy used in the 1907 cent), the Jefferson nickel, the Roosevelt dime, the Kennedy half-dollar, and the Golden Dollar featuring Sacagawea.


This would seem to indicate that there will be eight different Satin finish french bronze cents, and there will be eight different copper plated zinc versions for circulation.

There is similar language in the subscription information for the proof and silver proof sets stating they will have the french bronze coins.
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