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1902 5 Cent Grade? Super Die Clashed

 
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 Posted 11/17/2022  6:51 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 2rtgah678 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Got this really nice looking MS 1902 5 cent silver, it looks at least MS64 to me has great full luster and has a bunch of die clashes, behind the kings neck in front is neck, top right of his crown, top of the crown on the reverse and above the T and S in cents under the C and A of Canada and it has a super faint 9.





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 Posted 11/17/2022  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll say EF-45 (Sheldon).
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 Posted 11/17/2022  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 2rtgah678 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ummm. this coin came out of an older ICCS MS63 holder its MS
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 Posted 11/17/2022  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiecoiner to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To me, it is either seriously weakly struck or it's not close to MS.
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 Posted 11/17/2022  7:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 2rtgah678 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yea the pictures make it look bad... like the coin has full mint luster and there is 0 wear anywhere... like I said it was in a old MS63 ICCS holder and it has some pvc damage so I torn it out to acetone it.
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 Posted 11/18/2022  05:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not seeing MS either. The leaves on the reverse are certainly worn. Not heavily so, and the crown at the top is in outstanding shape. But that coin has seen some circulation for sure. Ed's moustache for example has a little wear.

Are you using some kind of filter for those photos? The slight blue wash over everything might be obscuring something but I'm not seeing all that much lustre either.
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 Posted 11/18/2022  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 2rtgah678 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is some pictures showing how the obverse and reverse has full undisturbed luster. I wish I could add videos on this.....

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 Posted 11/18/2022  12:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see wear.
I see weakly struck.
Still MS63
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Well, ICCS doesn't really look at the Rev of most coins that they grade. When you have a weak strike, it is normally only weak on one side. On this coin, it is on both, the worse being the Rev, but even his shoulder on the Obv doesn't show a good strike or it is from wear. It's not that ICCS does not make mistakes. I think that it's wear, myself. Silver at .900 is very soft and striking is very easy. If it was nickel, there would be a chance for a "both sides" weak strike, but not Ag in my opinion.
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 Posted 11/18/2022  4:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silver101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ah - those are much better photos!
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 Posted 11/24/2022  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
After seeing the second set of photos, MS-63.
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