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Russian Empire 5 Kopeks (1842-48).what In Tarnation Is Going On Here?

 
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 Posted 11/24/2022  02:20 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add chirrrs to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I came across this sold auction while looking for some comps on Russian 5 Kopeks:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255795364491

Any idea why these went for so much? The same seller had a few other listings of high grade 5 kopeks of that era that all brought top dollar and then some, but nothing like that one. What gives?

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 Posted 11/24/2022  03:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The bottom right 5 kopek, the one from 1842, is not a Russian Empire coin, but a pattern issue for Poland, so rare that Numista doesn't have a photo.

I guess the buyers thought they were getting a rare and valuable pattern mixed in with (relatively) normal coins. I'd be doubting that authenticity myself...

EDIT: Polish Wikipedia article on the type.
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11/24/2022 03:21 am
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 Posted 11/24/2022  04:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chirrrs to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had suspected that 5 kopek/10 groszy might have been the one that did it! There were several listings from this seller that brought big money, but this one was the most incredible:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/255791937619

I don't know anything about these coins, but if those grades and prices are even remotely accurate, it's full of uncirculated coins grading 65 and above and just a quick summation of the prices I saw would put that collection at around $25k. Who knows how far off that actually is. If you like Russian Empire coinage, this looks like the find and work of a lifetime! If all of that was legitimate, perhaps that pattern is as well.
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 Posted 11/24/2022  05:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would need to see each coin before considering to buy.
The listing shows flips which may, or may not have a coin in each of them.

Even for an honest seller, showing them as a lot like this makes them almost impossible for a buyer to show up.
Would have a better chance with a specialist numismatic public auctioneer, with the best of commercial reputations,
and the lot more accurately described, with far more detail.
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