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Reached 250 Posts, Time For My First Contest! Winner=mycrob

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 Posted 03/09/2009  04:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add soldier4Christ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok... it is 4:07 in the A.M. I'm going to bed...this is driving me mad! I'm with QuickSilver just when I think I have it figured out...well it just doesn't add up!
Night,
Brad
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 Posted 03/09/2009  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm having a hard time with this one. WOW
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03/09/2009 09:29 am
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 Posted 03/10/2009  12:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MtnCoinMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Should I just end this contest without a winner? I find these types of contests very fun and challenging, but if this is not the type of thing folks on this forum enjoy, then I will try to think of a different, easier kind of contest.
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 Posted 03/10/2009  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add soldier4Christ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No this is a great contest...it is just very challenging... I'm having fun with it... I love a good brain buster! I just get to where I think I have it and then...bam it doesn't make sense... keep it coming! I'm enjoying it!
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 Posted 03/10/2009  04:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think for those of us that have not done this type of thing before you may have started off with a bit of a difficult one.

I have been searching through a lot of information on ciphers and so on and have not come across any that had symbols and numbers in addition to letters. Even the wikipedia site you referred us to does not say anything about that so I do not know if that is where I am going wrong.

The clue Mercury Model didn't mean anything to me and a search revealed nothing to do with ciphers either so I am a bit stumped at the moment. I think my table may be wrong but I cannot figure out why. Keep the clues coming someone should get it eventually.
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 Posted 03/10/2009  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, keep the clues coming. I may have one word solved, based on the clues provided. Perhaps a clue related to the symbols would be helpful, because that's where I'm stumped, and seems like others are too.
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03/10/2009 09:56 am
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 Posted 03/10/2009  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brefos77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is tough. Did you type it in and use a security scrambler thing to make new letters? It doesn't make any sense!!

Don't end it, keep the clues coming! It's a fun brain teaser!

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 Posted 03/10/2009  10:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe some help here - Maybe not :)
If ZEPHYR has nothing to do with the Key, maybe is has to do
with the ZEPHYR code ?
I'm not into programing etc. so ?
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 Posted 03/10/2009  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got it. Zephyr= the code word. Mercury cars had a Zephyr model.

Answer to the cipher:

Money itself must be a scarce good. Many items have been used as money, from naturally scare precious metals and conch shells through cigarettes to entirely artificial money such as banknotes. Modern money is essentially a token, an abstraction. Paper currency is perhaps the most common type of physical money today. However, goods such as gold or silver retain many of the essential properties of money.

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03/10/2009 10:40 am
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 Posted 03/10/2009  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brefos77 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, that was amazing!

You deserve 10 silver coins for that! Way to go!
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 Posted 03/10/2009  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mycrob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's part of how I figured it out:

Cipher: N!cda jg7l&t ff78 gu r ...
Codeword: ZEPHY RZEPHY RZEP HY R
Answer: Money itself must be a

The symbols I just guessed based on the rest of the word and then was able to use the symbols for other parts of the cipher.
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03/10/2009 10:44 am
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 Posted 03/10/2009  11:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well done!

I had 6 columns very early on and then I had zephyr from the breeze clue, I even figured the first word was money, but it just didn't work in my table. And I couldn't make it work.

What did your vigenere table look like?
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 Posted 03/10/2009  11:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never mind I just noticed the clues added today! It works now. Shame I didn't check in earlier.

Well done mycrob!
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03/10/2009 11:31 am
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 Posted 03/10/2009  12:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MtnCoinMan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
CONGRATULATIONS MYCROB, email me your address and you will have one silver bullion round heading your way this week. Sorry the price of silver is in a nose dive, but isn't that the way of "money!"

I figured today's clues would bring an answer. I actually had my first experience with a Vigener Cipher doing GEOCACHING. Some Geocachers would list their caches in a Vigenere Cipher and you had to figure it out so you could find it. Here is the last one I did:
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cach...e69e5b75e739
Although I live in Colorado, my uncle lives in Oregon and asked me to figure this one out for him. The hard part of that one was using a space as one of the characters and not knowing the keyword, but I finally figured it out, the keyword was "vigenere", LOL.

One way to start figuring my cipher out was that the first word and last word were the same. Therefore, the first letter of both words would be on the SAME row, the second letters would be on the same row, etc... Then you can start assembling the cipher box.

I will do another one for my 500th post, but it will not be a vigenere cipher, it will be another type.

I hope everyone had fun! I sure had fun doing it, it took me 4 hours just to put it together.
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 Posted 03/10/2009  12:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add QuickSilver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Explain that again about the first letters being on the same row etc?

Since the first word was N!CDA this was under ZEPHY columns but I had MDMAQ under YRZEP columns giving you the same word?

How do you use rows?

I also still am not sure how the numbers and symbols work, they still don't work in my table? Doesn't sound like they worked in mycrobs either?

So now it is over what order after A - Z did you have the numbers and symbols in?

This was a lot of fun! I look forward to the next one.
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